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				<pubDate>Sat, 24 Sep 2016 03:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>So it looks like now when you first encounter <a href="http://metroplexity.wikidot.com/pick-a-side">Pick a Side</a>, you can't get away from it without doing anything. Just watching will give you a nudge to get a bit more involved, offering to buy from the gangers will unlock a new encounter where you can just directly get Eclipse from them, which is probably now the fastest way through the quest, though you won't make progress on getting the skills.</p> <p>I'm not sure if the helping the ganger/homeless options have changed at all. I didn't pick either until having already handed over a coat to the friendly bum and thus starting my path down his questline. And so I also don't know what'll happen if you just quickly grab some Eclipse from the Fangs, and then just leave without dealing with either Carlos or the friendly bum at all.</p> <p>Also: You now start with some text below the map. It's a box labeled &quot;Where To?&quot; which says: Choose where you want to go from the map.</p> 
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				<pubDate>Thu, 29 Aug 2013 22:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>This run it took 3 times. Compared to the post above. This time I ran away from gangers but killed bums that came up in encounters, which might be important.</p> <div class="code"> <pre><code>E:There's always at least one barrel full of burning trash in Southside Park, putting off that distinc E:Wandering through the back alleys near the park, you discover an overflowing dumpster.brbr inpu E:In a nearby alleyway, a ganger is shaking down a homeless man for cash. You're not sure what good th ***E:The ganger looks you up and down.brbr'Thanks for the assist, chum. These bums gotta learn their E:A wild-eyed bum looks up at you from his burn barrel. He gurgles something incoherent and charges at F:Insane Bum F:---WON E:You hear a voice behind you. 'This is our turf, lowlife.'brbrThen, as you turn around, the first F:Ganger F:---FAILED RUN AWAY F:---RUN AWAY E:There's always at least one barrel full of burning trash in Southside Park, putting off that distinc E:There's always at least one barrel full of burning trash in Southside Park, putting off that distinc E:Wandering through the back alleys near the park, you discover an overflowing dumpster.brbr inpu E:In a nearby alleyway, a ganger is shaking down a homeless man for cash. You're not sure what good th ***E:The ganger looks you up and down.brbr'Thanks for the assist, chum. These bums gotta learn their E:In a nearby alleyway, a ganger is shaking down a homeless man for cash. You're not sure what good th ***E:The ganger looks you up and down.brbr'Thanks for the assist, chum. These bums gotta learn their E:A wild-eyed bum looks up at you from his burn barrel. He gurgles something incoherent and charges at F:Insane Bum F:---WON E:In a nearby alleyway, a ganger is shaking down a homeless man for cash. You're not sure what good th E:The ganger you helped nods appreciatively.brbr&quot;Seen you around a lot helping out the Fangs. Than D:N*Carlos:</code></pre></div> <br /> Shakedown x3 (and one more for Carlos)<br /> Killed Bum x2<br /> Ganger Run Away x1 <div class="code"> <pre><code>S:Al|0,0,0,0|0|(none)|0,2,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0, E:Welcome to the deli! Do you need to talk or are you just looking for a bite to eat?br brform ac I:You equip your festive knit hat. I:You equip your holosight rifle and put your cheap pistol away. I:You equip your unearthly coin. I:You equip your designer vines and put your comfy jeans away. I:You equip your dancing hut figure. S:Al|3,3,7,8|0|(none)|0,4,0,0,0,2,0,3,0,0,3,0,0,+3,+3,+7,+8,0,0, E:You hear a voice behind you. 'This is our turf, lowlife.'brbrThen, as you turn around, the first F:Ganger F:---RUN AWAY S:Al|3,3,7,8|0|Southside Park|0,4,0,0,0,2,0,3,0,0,3,0,0,+3,+3,+7,+8,0,0, E:Wandering through the back alleys near the park, you discover an overflowing dumpster.brbr inpu E: You just walk away. No harm, no foul, right? brbrbrbrform action=&quot;location.php&quot; method=&quot;po E:A wild-eyed bum looks up at you from his burn barrel. He gurgles something incoherent and charges at F:Insane Bum C:You shoot the insane bum for 6 damage, but he ducks behind cover, which absorbs all but 2 damage.#The insane bum dives for cover.##You pump your remaining rounds into the insane bum, dealing 12 damage.### F:---WON D:W*1:I*1*1: S:Al|3,3,7,9|0|Southside Park|0,4,0,0,0,2,0,3,0,0,3,0,0,+3,+3,+7,+8,0,0, E:In a nearby alleyway, a ganger is shaking down a homeless man for cash. You're not sure what good th E:The ganger looks you up and down.brbr'Thanks for the assist, chum. These bums gotta learn their D:C*2: S:Al|3,3,7,9|0|Southside Park|0,4,0,1,0,2,0,3,0,1,3,0,0,+3,+3,+7,+8,0,0, E:There's always at least one barrel full of burning trash in Southside Park, putting off that distinc E: You just walk away. No harm, no foul, right? brbrbrbrform action=&quot;location.php&quot; method=&quot;po E:There's always at least one barrel full of burning trash in Southside Park, putting off that distinc E: You just walk away. No harm, no foul, right? brbrbrbrform action=&quot;location.php&quot; method=&quot;po E:In a nearby alleyway, a ganger is shaking down a homeless man for cash. You're not sure what good th E:The ganger looks you up and down.brbr'Thanks for the assist, chum. These bums gotta learn their D:C*4: E:Wandering through the back alleys near the park, you discover an overflowing dumpster.brbr inpu E: You just walk away. No harm, no foul, right? brbrbrbrform action=&quot;location.php&quot; method=&quot;po E:A wild-eyed bum looks up at you from his burn barrel. He gurgles something incoherent and charges at F:Insane Bum C:You dive for cover.#The insane bum dives for cover.## C:You dive for cover.#The insane bum punches you for 2 damage, but you duck behind cover, which absorbs all of the damage.##The insane bum dives for cover.## C:You dive for cover.#The insane bum dives for cover.## C:You dive for cover.#The insane bum punches you for 2 damage, but you duck behind cover, which absorbs all of the damage.##You shoot the insane bum for 9 damage, but he ducks behind cover, which absorbs all but 5 damage.#The insane bum dives for cover.##You pump your remaining rounds into the insane bum, dealing 9 damage.### F:---WON D:P*1:I*1*1:I*1*7: S:Al|4,3,7,9|0|Southside Park|0,4,0,1,0,2,0,3,0,1,3,0,0,+3,+3,+7,+8,0,0, E:You hear a voice behind you. 'This is our turf, lowlife.'brbrThen, as you turn around, the first F:Ganger C:You try to escape, but can't shake the ganger.##The ganger fires a short burst into you, dealing 2 damage.## F:---FAILED RUN AWAY F:---RUN AWAY E:Wandering through the back alleys near the park, you discover an overflowing dumpster.brbr inpu E: You just walk away. No harm, no foul, right? brbrAll this wandering around is making you a bit E:In a nearby alleyway, a ganger is shaking down a homeless man for cash. You're not sure what good th E:The ganger looks you up and down.brbr'Thanks for the assist, chum. These bums gotta learn their D:C*4: E:You faintly hear screams coming from a nearby alley. Taking a closer look, you find two men in corpo E: You just walk away. No harm, no foul, right? brbrbrbrform action=&quot;location.php&quot; method=&quot;po E:There's always at least one barrel full of burning trash in Southside Park, putting off that distinc E: You just walk away. No harm, no foul, right? brbrbrbrform action=&quot;location.php&quot; method=&quot;po E:Wandering through the back alleys near the park, you discover an overflowing dumpster.brbr inpu E: You just walk away. No harm, no foul, right? brbrbrbrform action=&quot;location.php&quot; method=&quot;po E:A wild-eyed bum looks up at you from his burn barrel. He gurgles something incoherent and charges at F:Insane Bum C:You dive for cover.#The insane bum punches you for 1 damage, but you duck behind cover, which absorbs all of the damage.##You shoot the insane bum for 9 damage.##You pump your remaining rounds into the insane bum, dealing 10 damage.### F:---WON D:W*1:I*1*29:I*1*7: E:You faintly hear screams coming from a nearby alley. Taking a closer look, you find two men in corpo E: You just walk away. No harm, no foul, right? brbrbrbrform action=&quot;location.php&quot; method=&quot;po E:In a nearby alleyway, a ganger is shaking down a homeless man for cash. You're not sure what good th E:The ganger you helped nods appreciatively.brbr&quot;Seen you around a lot helping out the Fangs. Than D:N*Carlos:</code></pre></div> <br /> New run<br /> Shakedown x3 (and one more for Carlos)<br /> Killed Bum x3<br /> Ganger Run Away x2
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				<pubDate>Sat, 24 Aug 2013 19:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Starting a new reset, and it took <em>12</em> times before Carlos showed up. Something odd going on here.</p> <p>Carlos gave me 11 Eclipse before his boss was mad at him.</p> <div class="code"> <pre><code>E:A wild-eyed bum looks up at you from his burn barrel. He gurgles something incoherent and charges at F:Insane Bum E:In a nearby alleyway, a ganger is shaking down a homeless man for cash. You're not sure what good th ***E:The ganger looks you up and down.brbr'Thanks for the assist, chum. These bums gotta learn their E:There's always at least one barrel full of burning trash in Southside Park, putting off that distinc F:Ganger F:Ganger E:A wild-eyed bum looks up at you from his burn barrel. He gurgles something incoherent and charges at F:Insane Bum E:There's always at least one barrel full of burning trash in Southside Park, putting off that distinc E:In a nearby alleyway, a ganger is shaking down a homeless man for cash. You're not sure what good th ***E:The ganger looks you up and down.brbr'Thanks for the assist, chum. These bums gotta learn their E:In a nearby alleyway, a ganger is shaking down a homeless man for cash. You're not sure what good th ***E:The ganger looks you up and down.brbr'Thanks for the assist, chum. These bums gotta learn their E:There's always at least one barrel full of burning trash in Southside Park, putting off that distinc E:A wild-eyed bum looks up at you from his burn barrel. He gurgles something incoherent and charges at F:Insane Bum E:There's always at least one barrel full of burning trash in Southside Park, putting off that distinc E:There's always at least one barrel full of burning trash in Southside Park, putting off that distinc E:There's always at least one barrel full of burning trash in Southside Park, putting off that distinc E:A wild-eyed bum looks up at you from his burn barrel. He gurgles something incoherent and charges at F:Insane Bum E:In a nearby alleyway, a ganger is shaking down a homeless man for cash. You're not sure what good th ***E:The ganger looks you up and down.brbr'Thanks for the assist, chum. These bums gotta learn their E:In a nearby alleyway, a ganger is shaking down a homeless man for cash. You're not sure what good th ***E:The ganger looks you up and down.brbr'Thanks for the assist, chum. These bums gotta learn their E:There's always at least one barrel full of burning trash in Southside Park, putting off that distinc E:In a nearby alleyway, a ganger is shaking down a homeless man for cash. You're not sure what good th ***E:The ganger looks you up and down.brbr'Thanks for the assist, chum. These bums gotta learn their E:There's always at least one barrel full of burning trash in Southside Park, putting off that distinc E:A wild-eyed bum looks up at you from his burn barrel. He gurgles something incoherent and charges at F:Insane Bum E:There's always at least one barrel full of burning trash in Southside Park, putting off that distinc E:A wild-eyed bum looks up at you from his burn barrel. He gurgles something incoherent and charges at F:Insane Bum E:In a nearby alleyway, a ganger is shaking down a homeless man for cash. You're not sure what good th ***E:The ganger looks you up and down.brbr'Thanks for the assist, chum. These bums gotta learn their E:In a nearby alleyway, a ganger is shaking down a homeless man for cash. You're not sure what good th ***E:The ganger looks you up and down.brbr'Thanks for the assist, chum. These bums gotta learn their E:A wild-eyed bum looks up at you from his burn barrel. He gurgles something incoherent and charges at F:Insane Bum E:In a nearby alleyway, a ganger is shaking down a homeless man for cash. You're not sure what good th ***E:The ganger looks you up and down.brbr'Thanks for the assist, chum. These bums gotta learn their E:There's always at least one barrel full of burning trash in Southside Park, putting off that distinc E:A wild-eyed bum looks up at you from his burn barrel. He gurgles something incoherent and charges at F:Insane Bum E:There's always at least one barrel full of burning trash in Southside Park, putting off that distinc E:You look over your old jacket for a moment. There are enough holes in it that, frankly, you're not r E:In a nearby alleyway, a ganger is shaking down a homeless man for cash. You're not sure what good th ***E:The ganger looks you up and down.brbr'Thanks for the assist, chum. These bums gotta learn their E:A wild-eyed bum looks up at you from his burn barrel. He gurgles something incoherent and charges at F:Insane Bum E:In a nearby alleyway, a ganger is shaking down a homeless man for cash. You're not sure what good th ***E:The ganger looks you up and down.brbr'Thanks for the assist, chum. These bums gotta learn their E:In a nearby alleyway, a ganger is shaking down a homeless man for cash. You're not sure what good th E:The ganger you helped nods appreciatively.brbr&quot;Seen you around a lot helping out the Fangs. Than D:N*Carlos:</code></pre></div> 
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				<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2012 03:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>After some long (20+ turn) Southside Park runs when I tried to help the gangers, I've been going melee lately. But I tried siding with Carlos again, and it was surprisingly quick (10 turns this time). I'll start counting how many times I helped here - I get a vague feeling that killing bums and/or not killing gangers helps speed things up.</p> <p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Run #50</span></p> <p>F:Insane Bum (win)<br /> E:There's always at least one barrel full of burning trash in Southside Park (walk away)<br /> E:In a nearby alleyway, a ganger is shaking down a homeless man for cash. (shakedown)<br /> F:Insane Bum (win)<br /> F:Ganger (win)<br /> E:In a nearby alleyway, a ganger is shaking down a homeless man for cash. (shakedown)<br /> F:Ganger (win)<br /> E:In a nearby alleyway, a ganger is shaking down a homeless man for cash. (shakedown)<br /> E:There's always at least one barrel full of burning trash in Southside Park (walk away)<br /> F:Insane Bum (win)<br /> E:There's always at least one barrel full of burning trash in Southside Park (walk away)<br /> F:Insane Bum (win)<br /> E:In a nearby alleyway, a ganger is shaking down a homeless man for cash. (shakedown - Carlos)</p> 
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				<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 21:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Make sure to keep the different dumpster diving results of the before and after versions in the new page.<br /> Or, thirded.</p> 
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				<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 20:52:58 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>I have never seen the need for pre- and post-quest pages. So, yeah, I'd be all in favor of consolidating them.</p> 
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				<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 19:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>A lot of these adventures don't go away until you complete the Docks quest (like <a href="http://metroplexity.wikidot.com/pick-a-side">Pick a Side</a>, etc). Should we just merge the two pages? Is it worth keeping them separate?</p> 
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