Scrap heaps do NOT gain size in real time

This is wrong. It just takes *many* scavenging encounters. Like a dozen at least. And iirc it's more if your heap is closer to full.

Also don't forget that each heap size is actually 2 sizes (if you dive without scavenging, you will get 15, 15, 14, 14, 13, 13, 12, 12, 11, 11, … I think that's about where I stopped confirming). You increased your heap size by one "sub size" at least twice, by my count.

I have definitely gone from 14 to 15 repeatedly in one day. Where the number of repeats was 2 or 3.

(and I think the max is 16? Didn't try in a very long time, memory is faulty - but I should probably have two untouched heaps available too …).

ETA: it's possible that dish segment counts extra, and I only got 15 + dish segment? but your 11 -> 11 -> 9+dish segment -> 10 suggests that dish segment counts as part of the normal total

ETA2: and I have no idea how diving into the heap interacts with "saved charges" … you would need to do something like start from provably empty heap, put in various amounts of charges, see how many charges is enough for how many items, then start breaking the up the charges into two batches of various M:N with a dive between them …

]]>A log of coordinated scavenging-raiding cycles, in chronological order, all in the same day.

EDIT: Arkaim and Barton26 did all the scavenging, I did all the scrap raiding.

(slags scrap heap, scavenging in waterfront)

11 items on first raid

3 scavenge, then 11 items

3 scavenge 9 items & Dish segment

2 scavenge 10 items

3 scavenge 10 items

3 scavenge 9 items

4 scavenge 9 items

0 scavenge 9 items

5 scavenge 8 items

5 scav 8 items

0 scav 8 items

10 scav 8

(waterfront scrap, scavenge in waterfront)

15 items

14

13

5 scav 13 items

(slags scrap, scavenge in sewers)

5 scav 8

6 scav 8

(university)

15 items

Findings:

-Scrap heaps do NOT gain size in real time, if the constant decline of the slags pit despite much scavenging says anything. They probably update on rollover based on the day's total scavenging.

-All scrap heaps sizes are NOT interconnected when raiding. When I moved to a fresh, untouched area's heap, I got 15 items (probably the max) again.

-Obviously, the university and waterfront scrap heaps are confirmed not to give dish segments.

More on this tomorrow.

]]>You found: 3 sticks of dynamite

You found: pistol fittings

You found: switchblade handle

You found: 3 empty clips

You found: 4 handfuls of polysteel

You found: circuit fragments

You found: microcapacitor

]]>You found: 3 microcapacitors

You found: 2 handfuls of polysteel

You found: 2 tablets of Eclipse

You found: 3 handfuls of circuit fragments

You found: pistol fittings

You found: dynamite

You found: frayed cable

EDIT: Just tried the slags too. 7,6,6,5,5,4,3,3,2,1 empty. Data!

]]>The message, at least for the Quad, is:

You lower yourself into the scrap pit, searching for buried treasures.

After 14 scavenges:

You found: signal analysis circuit

You found: unlined pants

You found: unlined vest

You found: microcapacitor

After a bunch more scavenges:

You found: 2 handfuls of circuit fragments

You found: 2 handfuls of polysteel

You found: unlined pants

You found: frayed cable

You found: empty clip

You found: microcapacitor

You found: circuit fragments

You found: signal analysis circuit

You found: unlined vest

You found: unlined pants

You found: unlined pants

You found: polysteel

You found: 2 handfuls of circuit fragments

You found: frayed cable

You found: 2 signal analysis circuits

You found: unlined vest

You found: polysteel

You found: frayed cable

Note that on my first raid I got 4 items, while after more scavenging I got 5-6. (And my last two uses, after I had already raided a few times, were the ones that gave 5.) This suggests that you get more items if there has been more scavenging. Raz seemed to be getting about 8 items/raid in his data on the main page, so I'm guessing he and the other Hounds did more scavenging first.

I wonder if there's an upper limit to this. Maybe if we scavenge enough we'll get a message like "Your gang's scrap pit is full to the brim." Maybe at that point you'll have a chance of finding epic scavenge-only items or something. Otherwise, yeah, this does seem like a pretty underwhelming way to spend your turns, although there may be a PvP avatar in there somewhere.

Maybe Kinak will shed some light on whether there's something cool in here that we have yet to find on the next podcast.

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