Misty Gem / Discussion

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bigalphillips 11 Sep 2014 23:54

Possible results for salvage here are:

[1 ecto sample]
or
[2 ecto sample],

or with expert salvager, you have a 50% chance of getting multiple salvages, including the possibility of 3 ecto samples. (Would need more data on how often that happens but that is definitely possible.)

GoldS 12 Sep 2014 01:13

We really need some indicator somewhere of what items are affected by Expert Salvager.

bigalphillips 12 Sep 2014 02:12

The standard I've been using (which I don't think I ever wrote down anywhere so it's not really a very good standard), is that once I reasonably sure I have all salvage results for an item figured out, I write with the x-numbers in parentheses like this:

first item (1x), second item (1x)

The way that salvaging works:

• A item has a list of "salvage result".
• A "salvage result" is a set of one or more items (more often than not: a "salvage result" is exactly one item— but there are exceptions, see below)
• Without Expert Salvager, exactly one of these "salvage results" is chosen and given to you.
• With Expert Salvager, there is a 50% chance of a second "salvage result" dropping as well (if there is a second one to choose from)

A "salvage result" can be:

• [A] A single item
• [B] Several of a single type of item
• [C] Several different items

So in practice, this gives the following possibilities/examples:

• Items with 1 "salvage result" with one single item.
  • These give guaranteed results, and expert salvager makes no difference.
  • Eg. unlocked Midgard Player = { [1 Midgard Player] }

• Items with several "salvage results" with one single item each.
  • If there are two possible results, without expert salvager that means a 50% chance of Item A, and 50% of item B. With Expert Salvager, that means 25% of just Item A, 25% of just Item B, and 50% of both.
  • Eg. suspicious rifle = { [1 polysteel], [1 assault rifle fittings] }

• Items with 2 "salvage result", where each salvage result happens to be the exact same item.
  • Same as the above example except Item A and B are the same item.
  • Eg. artificial hound crystal = { [1 hound dust], [1 hound dust] }

• Many books have a "salvage result" of [2 Paper Mache], and another one of [3 Paper Mache]. This means that without Expert Salvager, you can get 2 or 3 Paper Mache. With Expert Salvager, you can get 2 or 3 or 5 paper mache.
  • Eg. The Eye = { [2 Paper Mache], [3 Paper Mache] }

• The heavy pistol has possible results of { [1 Polysteel], [1 Polysteel], [1 pistol fittings] } — so the polysteel is twice as common. Getting 2 polysteel is possible.

• The frigid scarf has just one "salvage result" which consists of { [1 Ordinary Scarf+3 handfuls of snowflakes] }

• The Omnitech Learntop is a neat one which consists of six different possible results, some of which consist of multiple copies/repeats. You could express it as { [1 signal analysis circuit], [1 microcapacitor], [2 microcapacitor], [1 frayed cable], [2 circuit fragments], [3 circuit fragments] }

I started the Salvage Spading page a while back to track stuff — thanks for reminding me about this!

Last edited on 12 Sep 2014 02:25 by bigalphillips Show more