November Podcast Answer
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Kinak
November Podcast Answer
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Answering the tough questions so you don't have to
Not me. It *was* always kinda weird that we had to guess damage types from context, by juggling defense powers, or by using countertechniques known to switch form based on opposing type …
Haven't had a chance to listen to the podcast yet, but I definitely wouldn't mind. Would make a few things easier to figure out, between opponents that are good at multiple damage types and techniques that can swap damage types based on circumstances…
WhaaaaAAAAT???? Explicit notification on the damage type taken?! In MY Metroplexity?!?! Why the very thought! The INSOLENCE of it… the very IDEA… why I oughta… this whole thing… just makes me… start… seeing… RED!!!!! Do I mind???? DO I MIND!!! Allow me to give a piece of my MIND! The very idea that we could… just… KNOW. Know explicitely how you are being damage! BLASPHEMY. An AFFRONT to all that Metroplexity stands for! That we can get IMMEDIATE FEEDBACK on how our equipment is effecting the outcome of the battle and have the information to react accordingly and sensibly?!?! How. WHY. Could this even be CONSIDERED???? FROTHING AT THE MOUTH BLARGEIAHGOAIJBLAJR;IJR;38920U5NLW
AAARRGHGEAA! GAAAAAAAH! RAAAAAAAAAGE!!!!!!!11!!!!eleventy
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(I'll return once Artificial Rage has worn off)
I have enjoyed spading the damage types in the past but seeing as I also have literally hundreds of other things to spade, I would not object. Not sure how the combat texts are stored exactly, but might require rewording a handful of techniques to make them less awkward:
You lash <opponent> with a live electrical cable, dealing 3 melee shocking damage.
Incidentally this might be a bug, but if a technique gets a bonus "vs. Melee", is it supposed to work against all melee damage attack or just ones where the default form of the technique is Melee? As Arkaim here explained a while ago:
For example, clashing blow. Blocks melee attacks if your melee power is greater than your opponent's. It, however, fails to block the melee damage foreign shark when it does Circles attack. Why? Because clashing blow can't recognize melee damage that is coming from an attack not explicitly stated as melee. Circles is an evasion move that only sometimes does melee damage.
(I do think it would make certain things a lot clearer, especially to new people, if damage was explicitly stated.)
Re: Plus4's question about sorting equipment by the bonuses they provide — I did make a greasemonkey script a long time ago that did this but not sure where it is now. But yeah, made a big list of all known items and bonuses and stored that in the script, and then any new items that get added it tried to parse the bonuses section on the item desc and store those. I'll see if I can't find/update it at some point here…
Thanks again for the podcast Kinak!
(I'll return once Artificial Rage has worn off)
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You lash <opponent> with a live electrical cable, dealing 3 melee shocking damage.
Yeah, there's a few I'll have to go over.
Incidentally this might be a bug, but if a technique gets a bonus "vs. Melee", is it supposed to work against all melee damage attack or just ones where the default form of the technique is Melee?
It's only intended to work if the base form is melee.
As a thought experiment, consider a technique that is evasion in its base form but melee when opposed by another evasion technique. Seems reasonable enough, right?
Two characters using that technique square off. What happens?
If I keep updating to respond to the changing types, the game will hang, because there isn't a right answer. So that's obviously not happening.
In which case, it's just a question of when we want to be wrong. I think keying off the base form makes a degree of narrative sense, because that's really what the characters are responding to. But I don't blame people who are irritated because they want their +4 Power.
If it matters to people that it's always right, I'll have to do something fairly drastic. If they want it right more of the time, that's just a ton of work.
Re: Plus4's question about sorting equipment by the bonuses they provide — I did make a greasemonkey script a long time ago that did this but not sure where it is now. But yeah, made a big list of all known items and bonuses and stored that in the script, and then any new items that get added it tried to parse the bonuses section on the item desc and store those. I'll see if I can't find/update it at some point here…
Yeah, that's probably the best way to do that. Mostly, I'm just not sure how I'd want to integrate it into the interface. And Javascript.
*shakes fist at Javascript*
Cheers!
Kinak
So, damage displays its type now, which brings us to:
- Stone's beatstick and pistol have gotten upgrades. (Leftover business from last podcast.)
- Conservative Shot and Continuing Fire are not, in fact, bugged. People just tend to only unlock a few. (Also from last podcast.)
- Whiteout is now appropriately labeled in its base form.
- Damage displays its type for attacks. Weird end of round stuff that doesn't follow quite the same rules don't have it displayed.
Cheers!
Kinak
Cool, thanks for the updates Kinak. This already kind of makes it seem like a bigger, more complex game (in a good way) now that it is clear that there is more going on in combat.
Note to wiki editors: I've been going through and adding damage types to the wiki messages as I find it — I kind of want to confirm the text in game before adding here. Minor rewording in at least one case. Untyped damage is labeled "direct" it seems.
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