Parking Garage / Discussion

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Cryptodynamic 08 Jun 2022 20:38

I think the hound drone combat that starts with:

You come across a hulking canine drone with its plastic nose near the floor, sniffing in a strangely naturalistic fashion. Unlike a real dog, however, it's covered in armor and automatic weapons.

Might be in response to killing folks, because I'm having it come up even without having any Echoing Garage or HQ Alarm active. It's probably tied into the same counter for the stuff Al was seeing that mentioned blood having been spilled.

There's also another variant of this for not having an ID equipped, similar to some of the other stuff listed:

You come across a hulking canine drone with its plastic nose near the floor, sniffing in a strangely naturalistic fashion. Unlike a real dog, however, it's covered in armor and automatic weapons.

It responds to your presence by immediately opening fire. Amid the muzzle flashes, you can see its eyes turn red with a recording icon.

You've gained 5 duration of HQ Alarm.

So I think the result you get when encountering a hound drone is conditional in a few different places.

Edit: It looks like the sniffing hound drone might start showing up by around 10 kills. And after 20 kills I got the noncombat with Echoing Garage and HQ Alarm. I burned off that energy elsewhere, and then at 25 kills I got the encounter again. And again at 30 kills, this time while etheric. Still no sign of the rat encounter, though.

Last edited on 09 Jun 2022 00:35 by Cryptodynamic Show more

bigalphillips 09 Jun 2022 01:33

Okay, I see how this is getting complicated. The variables involved seem to be:

• Echoing Garage
• HQ Alarm
• Kill count - seems to reset daily; unsure if "innocents" (call center woman/janitor/panhandler) count the same as the more combative humans; seem likely drones don't count.
• ID badges equipped (5 possible downtown badges, seem to all work the same, rest don't change things?)
• "Exploration counter" of some sorts

I agree the "nose near the floor" seems to be from killing enough, with variations based on other variables.

Data:

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[POSSIBLY 1-2 FIGHTS I FAILED TO LOG]
WON CCWOMAN
WON CCWOMAN
WON PAN
WON JAN
WON PAN
WON PAN
WON JAN
WON CCWOMAN
WON PAN
WON JAN
SNIFFING HOUND
WON CCWOMAN
WON JAN
WON JAN
WON CCWOMAN
WON CCWOMAN
WON JAN
WON CCWOMAN
SNIFFING HOUND
WON JAN
WON CCWOMAN
SNIFFING HOUND
WON JAN
SNIFFING HOUND
WON CCWOMAN
WON CCWOMAN
SNIFFING HOUND
WON JAN
WON JAN
WON CCWOMAN
WON CCWOMAN
SNIFFING HOUND
WON CD4
WON CCWOMAN
WON JAN
WON CCWOMAN
SNIFFING HOUND
WON CD4
HUGE RAT
WON HUGE RAT
WON CCWOMAN
WON JAN
CRIME SCENE
SNIFFING HOUND
WON CD4
SNIFFING HOUND
WON CCWOMAN
WON JAN
WON CCWOMAN
CRIME SCENE
WON JAN
SNIFFING HOUND
WON CD4
WON CCWOMAN
WON CCWOMAN
HUGE RAT
WON JAN
CRIME SCENE
SNIFFING HOUND
WON CD4

Huge Rat didn't show up until after 39 (possibly 40) innocent kills). The hound sniffing around seemed to show up around 10 kills. The Crime Scene encounter around 30 kills?

Also - I got the Concealing Vines encounter only once so far. I tried (mostly after that) to infect a lot of people with Implant Seed but nothing obvious so far. Possibly infected people counter also? (see check the seed Mushroom Forest Of The Garage)

At least some of the call center/janitor/panhandler encounters show up with low levels of HQ alert but do not show up at higher alert, I think.

Last edited on 10 Jun 2022 03:40 by bigalphillips Show more

Cryptodynamic 09 Jun 2022 13:05

Have you gotten the encounter about the guards finding blood and bodies? It's possible that Concealing Vines prevents that from happening. Might also be the case that in the mushroom forest encounter, hitting the level of "Thick vines choke at the mushroom they cling to, leaving it barely visible. If anything, it looks like the vines are winning their contest for… whatever passes for nutrition down here." might mean that you've done enough.

We're talking about Kinak here, so of course there could be more levels to all of this, but I'm guessing at least the main intended point of the vine stuff is to get the "demand it obey" option to work in Unchained Freight Elevator, so if that's already been dealt with the most obvious end point might be missing.

bigalphillips 10 Jun 2022 02:47

Ah good point about the vines. I've been trying to infect people with Implant Seed too. I got the Crime Scene encounter about the same time as the rat (see log above). I'll collect more data.

bigalphillips 10 Jul 2023 04:14

Collected 100 energy of data on encounters rates with +8 chance of Etheric Encounters. Lobby Stairwell seems limited in some way. Trying to determine if chance of etheric helps with wispy hospital pants encounters.

Abandoned Car	30
Came to the Wrong Neighborhood	37
Chained Freight Elevator	43
Clattering Skeletal Tree	98	etheric encounter
Garage Janitor	31
Lobby Stairwell	8
Mushroom Forest of the Garage	102	etheric encounter
Waddling Shape	110	etheric encounter
Wispy: Dusty Beggar	31
Wispy: Shining Castle	33
Wispy: Sorceress's Blessing	19
Wispy sum	83	etheric encounter?

I think a Lobby Stairwell can only be encountered every 10 turns.

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 Abandoned Car                  |                            X         X       X                      X                 X                                     X                       X                                    X               X                                      X                           X   X       X                               X                                              X                                     X                     X             X                   X       X                               X       X                  X      X X                 X       X                                      X        X                                                                   X     
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 Chained Freight Elevator       |  X     X                       X      X                                             X                           X                                     X         X           X        X      X                          X        X         X                       X        X              X          X         X              X           X  X            X      X       X       X       X         X                     X          X         X         X      X                           X          X             X                                            X                    X     X                        X                   X               X          X                                
 Clattering Skeletal Tree       |    X       X         X          X      X       X     X   X       X        X            X X    X    X         X         X     X       X   X    X         X    X     X XX           X          X                X      X       X      X        X         X      X       X X            X      X         X X        X        XX        X         X    X           X  X   X      XX            X      X   X  X       X        X                X      X  X      X       X      X         X   X    X      X      X X           X       X X         X X     X  X   X  X X          X   X  X         X          X      X      X        XX      X     X X X        X      X  X           X   X  X            
 Garage Janitor                 |X                                           X                 X       X                       X      X                                                                                                             X        X                   X            X                         X          X         X                            X       X          X                                         X              X                               X                       X          X               X                           X      X                                               X      X             X                                                X        X         X               X 
 Lobby Stairwell                |                   X                                                                                                X                                                                                                     X                                                                                                       X                                                            X                                                                                    X                                                                   X                                                                     X                                                                       
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 Waddling Shape                 |           X        X     XX  X   X      X        X XX       X      X    X  X      X       X     X      X X  X X     X   X      X   X  X         X  X   X  X   X   X      X   X             X   XX      X        XX      X             X           X        X       X X       X      X      X   XX           XX      XX       X X         X     X     X             X       X       X X          X      X   X       X X      X   X        X      X     X       X       X       X         X        X      X      X      X X     X          X         X      X    X      X XX     X             X      X   X             X              X     X   X X  X       XX         X    X  X  X      X      X X  
 Wispy: Dusty Beggar            |   X      X            X                               X X                X                           X                                      X                             X     X     X               X X           X         X   X                      X      X              X                                                     X              X                                                           X                                                  X                X             X                         X         X                                                  X             X                 X                                            X                              
 Wispy: Shining Castle          |     X            X                            X                        X           X                       X                                                                        X             X       X                        X       XX           X X                                   X                                 X                                                              X                               X X      X                                 X                    X         X                   X                                                          X       X                             X       XX               X       X              X               X      
 Wispy: Sorceress's Blessing    |               X                                 X                                                                                   X                    X                     X                           X                             X                                                                                             X                                               X                    X                                              X X                                                                                                                     X                        X           X         X       X                                X               X         
 Wispy sum                      |   X X    X    X  X    X                       X X     X X              X X         X                 X     X                        X       X            X                X    XX   X X           X   X X XX        X         X   XX     X XX           XXX     X              X              X                                 X    X X            X                                  X       X            X   X              X X      X                  X X     X      X         X          X  X      X                  XX        X                                            X    XX      X      X    X           XX    X   X   XX  X            X       X      X    X  X            X  X      
 All this wandering around tired| X       X       X       X     X     X     X       X       X     X     X       X      X     X     X      X      X     X     X     X      X      X     X      X          X      X         X     X      X         X      X     X        X        X     X        X      X     X      X     X     X      X     X     X     X     X      X       X     X      X     X     X     X     X     X      X      X     X       X     X     X       X      X     X     X       X      X      X      X     X       X      X     X     X       X     X      X     X     X     X     X     X     X      X       X      X       X     X       X       X        X     X      X      X      X       X     X      X      X
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Last edited on 10 Jul 2023 04:42 by bigalphillips Show more

bigalphillips 24 Jul 2023 00:36

It's pretty clear that the mushroom warrior starts showing up if you harvest mushrooms, and that resets daily. However it's odd that the warrior seems to stop showing up after some time. It just gives up eventually maybe? See notes below.

Also confirmed that you can harvest 5x per day without mushroom spade or 10x per day with mushroom spade. If you harvest 5x without and then equip spade you still can't harvest. I suspect there is a harvest counter which increments by 1 with spade or by 2 without, and maxes out at 10.

Tried various things with fungus spear equipped (trying to respond to the mushroom warrior's salute), etc.

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— NEW DAY —
HARVEST (success)
FIGHT MUSHROOM WARRIOR (dismissive flick)	Warrior starts showing up shortly after harvesting
FIGHT MUSHROOM WARRIOR (dismissive flick)
FIGHT MUSHROOM WARRIOR (dismissive flick)
FIGHT MUSHROOM WARRIOR (dismissive flick)
FIGHT MUSHROOM WARRIOR (dismissive flick)
FIGHT MUSHROOM WARRIOR (dismissive flick)
FIGHT MUSHROOM WARRIOR (dismissive flick)
HARVEST (success)
FIGHT MUSHROOM WARRIOR (dismissive flick)
HARVEST (success)
FIGHT MUSHROOM WARRIOR (dismissive flick)
FIGHT MUSHROOM WARRIOR (dismissive flick)
FIGHT MUSHROOM WARRIOR (dismissive flick)	(I was boosting +chance of combat encounters here)
FIGHT MUSHROOM WARRIOR (dismissive flick)
FIGHT MUSHROOM WARRIOR (dismissive flick)
FIGHT MUSHROOM WARRIOR (dismissive flick)
FIGHT MUSHROOM WARRIOR (dismissive flick)
FIGHT MUSHROOM WARRIOR (dismissive flick)
FIGHT MUSHROOM WARRIOR (dismissive flick)
FIGHT MUSHROOM WARRIOR (dismissive flick)
FIGHT MUSHROOM WARRIOR (dismissive flick)
FIGHT MUSHROOM WARRIOR (dismissive flick)
FIGHT MUSHROOM WARRIOR (dismissive flick)
HARVEST (success)
FIGHT MUSHROOM WARRIOR (dismissive flick)
FIGHT MUSHROOM WARRIOR (dismissive flick)
FIGHT MUSHROOM WARRIOR (dismissive flick)
FIGHT MUSHROOM WARRIOR (dismissive flick)
HARVEST (success)
FIGHT MUSHROOM WARRIOR (dismissive flick)
FIGHT MUSHROOM WARRIOR (dismissive flick)
HARVEST (maxed out for day)
FIGHT MUSHROOM WARRIOR (dismissive flick)
FIGHT MUSHROOM WARRIOR (dismissive flick)	Warrior stops showing up for unknown reason
HARVEST (maxed out for day)
WADDING SHAPE: OFFER SHELF FUNGUS
WADDING SHAPE: OFFER BURGER
WADDING SHAPE: OFFER BURGER
WADDING SHAPE: OFFER BURGER
WADDING SHAPE: OFFER BURGER
WADDING SHAPE: OFFER BURGER
WADDING SHAPE: OFFER BURGER
WADDING SHAPE: OFFER BURGER
WADDING SHAPE: OFFER BURGER
WADDING SHAPE: OFFER BURGER
WADDING SHAPE: OFFER BURGER
HARVEST (maxed out for day)
WADDING SHAPE: OFFER BURGER
WADDING SHAPE: OFFER BURGER
WADDING SHAPE: OFFER (NOTHING OF INTEREST)
WADDING SHAPE: OFFER SHELF FUNGUS
HARVEST (maxed out for day)
WADDLING SHAPE: FOLLOW (gesture emphatically)
HARVEST (maxed out for day)
WADDLING SHAPE: FOLLOW (gesture emphatically)
WADDLING SHAPE: FOLLOW (gesture emphatically)
WADDING SHAPE: OFFER BURGER
WADDLING SHAPE: FOLLOW (gesture emphatically)
WADDLING SHAPE: FOLLOW (gesture emphatically)
WADDLING SHAPE: FOLLOW (gesture emphatically)
— NEW DAY —
WADDING SHAPE: OFFER PROTEIN BAR	Mushrooms are peaceful to start new day
WADDING SHAPE: OFFER PROTEIN BAR
WADDING SHAPE: OFFER PROTEIN BAR
WADDING SHAPE: OFFER PROTEIN BAR
WADDING SHAPE: OFFER PROTEIN BAR
WADDING SHAPE: OFFER PROTEIN BAR
WADDING SHAPE: OFFER PROTEIN BAR
WADDING SHAPE: OFFER PROTEIN BAR
WADDING SHAPE: OFFER PROTEIN BAR
WADDING SHAPE: OFFER PROTEIN BAR
WADDING SHAPE: OFFER PROTEIN BAR
WADDLING SHAPE: FOLLOW (show eclipse)
WADDLING SHAPE: FOLLOW (show eclipse)
WADDING SHAPE: OFFER PROTEIN BAR
WADDLING SHAPE: FOLLOW (show eclipse)
HARVEST (mushroom spade)	Warrior starts showing up shortly after harvesting
WADDING SHAPE: OFFER SHELF FUNGUS
HARVEST (mushroom spade)
HARVEST (mushroom spade)
WADDLING SHAPE: FOLLOW (stealth)
FIGHT MUSHROOM WARRIOR (dismissive flick)
FIGHT MUSHROOM WARRIOR (dismissive flick)
FIGHT MUSHROOM WARRIOR (dismissive flick)
FIGHT MUSHROOM WARRIOR (dismissive flick)
HARVEST (mushroom spade)
WADDING SHAPE: OFFER CONSTRUCTION MUSHROOMN
HARVEST (mushroom spade)
FIGHT MUSHROOM WARRIOR (dismissive flick)
FIGHT MUSHROOM WARRIOR (dismissive flick)
HARVEST (mushroom spade)
FIGHT MUSHROOM WARRIOR (dismissive flick)
FIGHT MUSHROOM WARRIOR (dismissive flick)
HARVEST (mushroom spade)
WADDLING SHAPE: FOLLOW (stealth)
FIGHT MUSHROOM WARRIOR (dismissive flick)
HARVEST (mushroom spade)
WADDING SHAPE: OFFER BURGER
HARVEST (mushroom spade)
FIGHT MUSHROOM WARRIOR (dismissive flick)
WADDING SHAPE: OFFER SHELF FUNGUS
HARVEST (mushroom spade)
FIGHT MUSHROOM WARRIOR (dismissive flick)
FIGHT MUSHROOM WARRIOR (dismissive flick)
HARVEST (maxed out for day)
WADDLING SHAPE: FOLLOW (gesture emphatically)
FIGHT MUSHROOM WARRIOR (dismissive flick)
FIGHT MUSHROOM WARRIOR (dismissive flick)
HARVEST (maxed out for day)
HARVEST (maxed out for day)
FIGHT MUSHROOM WARRIOR (dismissive flick)
FIGHT MUSHROOM WARRIOR (dismissive flick)
HARVEST (maxed out for day)
FIGHT MUSHROOM WARRIOR (dismissive flick)
WADDING SHAPE: OFFER SHELF FUNGUS
HARVEST (maxed out for day)
HARVEST (maxed out for day)
WADDING SHAPE: OFFER CONSTRUCTION MUSHROOMN
HARVEST (maxed out for day)
HARVEST (maxed out for day)
WADDLING SHAPE: FOLLOW (gesture emphatically)
WADDING SHAPE: OFFER SHELF FUNGUS
WADDLING SHAPE: FOLLOW (gesture emphatically)