Headquarters Entrance / Discussion

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Cryptodynamic 25 Oct 2022 13:04

Haven't really investigated yet, but Argeth noted that it seems like the doors may have a metal detector or a weapon scanner or something like that, which accounts for the alarm you get for passing through the doors even without otherwise causing trouble. He found at least that unequipping his weapon allowed him to get through without increasing Lobby Alarm. I think he mentioned it being a switchblade of some sort.

bigalphillips 25 Oct 2022 13:57

I started getting the "A trio of guards start firing at you without warning, only shouting "drop it!" as the needles are already flying." combat as soon as I equipped a needler, I think that's also triggering off weapons equipped. I didn't get anything with a mop equipped.

EDIT:
I got this - did not gain any additional alarm (as the wiki notes, Crypto got 2 turns of alarm):

You swipe your badge and head inside.

Alarms chirp as you pass through the door, attracting attention from the guards.

Hat: (None)
Weapon: (None)
Offhand: downtown manager ID
Shirt: office suit coat
Pants: office dress pants
Gadget: understated watch

Last edited on 26 Oct 2022 01:07 by bigalphillips Show more

bigalphillips 26 Oct 2022 03:13

With:
Hat: heavy containment helmet
Weapon: (None)
Offhand: downtown security ID
Shirt: heavy containment top
Pants: heavy containment pants
Gadget: Myers sampling kit
Lobby Alarm (4)
Forgiveness Sparked (18)
Juryrigged Antenna (29)
Fae Sight (76)

You swipe your badge and head inside.

Alarms chirp as you pass through the door, attracting attention from the guards.

You've gained 6 duration of Lobby Alarm.

Hat: (None)
Weapon: (None)
Offhand: downtown security ID
Shirt: (None)
Pants: (None)
Gadget: Myers sampling kit
Lobby Alarm (9)
Forgiveness Sparked (17)
Juryrigged Antenna (28)
Fae Sight (75)

You swipe your badge and head inside.

Alarms chirp as you pass through the door, attracting attention from the guards.

You've gained 1 duration of Lobby Alarm.

On further experimentation, if it chirps it always seems to bring Lobby Alarm up to 10, adding on new turns as needed.
0 + 10 -> 10
4 + 6 -> 10
9 + 1 -> 10
7 + 3 -> 10

Cryptodynamic 11 Nov 2022 18:40

It looks like it might be more than just weapons that triggers the alarm. I scanned my badge with the following and got the alarm beeping:

Hat: shining glasses
Weapon: (None)
Offhand: downtown visitor ID
Shirt: bouncer suit jacket
Pants: pressed slacks
Gadget: highmem TZR

But I had recently installed a poseable hand.

bigalphillips 13 Nov 2022 03:56

Shoot, I had a bunch of data I just collected about entering the lobby and then closed this window without saving (wikidot does not have the same safeguards in editing forum posts as it does for editing normal pages!).

From memory:

downtown visitor ID	Walk in
downtown visitor ID, poseable hand, cat eyes	Alert guards, 10
janitorial ID, poseable hand, cat eyes	Alert guards, 10
janitorial ID, mop, poseable hand, cat eyes	Alert guards, 15
(same results as above two with janitor shirt+pants)

More testing with cyberware installed, it definitely matters. Never been able to walk in with counterculture cyberware installed.

downtown visitor ID, antique control gloves		Alert guards, 10
downtown visitor ID, ancient rifle		Alert guards, 15
downtown visitor ID, antique needler		Alert guards, 15
downtown visitor ID, battered Hammer		Alert guards, 10
downtown visitor ID, black gemstone		Alert guards, 20
downtown visitor ID, charred head		Alert guards, 20
downtown visitor ID, fire etched sword		Alert guards, 20
downtown visitor ID, fire axe		Alert guards, 15
downtown visitor ID, palace spear		Alert guards, 15
downtown visitor ID, national automatic		Alert guards, 15
downtown visitor ID, roomsweeper		Alert guards, 15
downtown visitor ID, the Hammer's sledge		Alert guards, 15
mailroom ID	No weapon	You swipe your badge and head inside.
mailroom ID, package opener, Midgard cap, safety vest	+1 mail	chirps/guard deactivates it
mailroom ID, package opener, Midgard cap	+1 mail	chirps/guard deactivates it
mailroom ID, package opener		Alert guards, 10
mailroom ID, package opener, safety vest		Alert guards, 10
mailroom ID, package opener, trendy Midgard cap	+1 mail	chirps/guard deactivates it
mailroom ID, package opener, Midgard hardhat		Alert guards, 10
mailroom ID, ornate letter opener		chirps/guard deactivates it (weird)
mailroom ID, ornate letter opener, Midgard cap	+1 mail	chirps/guard deactivates it
mailroom ID, classic switchblade		Alert guards, 10
mailroom ID, classic switchblade, Midgard cap	+1 mail	chirps/guard deactivates it
mailroom ID, bloody switchblade		Alert guards, 10
mailroom ID, bloody switchblade, Midgard cap	+1 mail	chirps/guard deactivates it
mailroom ID, defense knife, Midgard cap	+1 mail	chirps/guard deactivates it
mailroom ID, psychopath's knife, Midgard cap	+1 mail	chirps/guard deactivates it
janitorial ID	No weapon	You swipe your badge and head inside.
janitorial ID, janitorial shirt, janitorial pants	No weapon	You swipe your badge and head inside.
janitorial ID, mop		Alert guards, 10
janitorial ID, mop, janitorial shirt, janitorial pants, midgard cap	+2 janitor	chirps/guard deactivates it
janitorial ID, mop, janitorial shirt, janitorial pants	+2 janitor	chirps/guard deactivates it
janitorial ID, mop, janitorial shirt	+1 janitor	chirps/guard deactivates it
janitorial ID, mop, janitorial pants	+1 janitor	chirps/guard deactivates it
janitorial ID, package opener, janitorial shirt, janitorial pants	wrong weapon	Alert guards, 10
internal security ID, light armored vest, Midgard heavy pants	no weapon	You swipe your badge and head inside.
internal security ID, collapsible baton, light armored vest	+1 MSec	Alert guards, 10
internal security ID, collapsible baton, light armored vest, security visor	+2 MSec	chirps/guard deactivates it
internal security ID, collapsible baton, light armored vest, Midgard heavy pants	+2 MSec	chirps/guard deactivates it
downtown security ID, collapsible baton, light armored vest, Midgard heavy pants	+2 MSec	chirps/guard deactivates it
janitorial ID, collapsible baton, light armored vest, Midgard heavy pants	wrong weapon	Alert guards, 10
internal security ID, Midgard heavy gauntlets, light armored vest, Midgard heavy pants	+1 heavy	Alert guards, 10
internal security ID, Midgard heavy gauntlets, Midgard heavy vest, Midgard heavy pants	+2 heavy	chirps/guard deactivates it there is definitely a separate "heavy" guard flag
internal security ID, riot baton, light armored vest, Midgard heavy pants	+2 MSec	chirps/guard deactivates it
internal security ID, Midgard MK9, light armored vest, Midgard heavy pants	+2 MSec	chirps/guard deactivates it
internal security ID, Midgard MG2, light armored vest, Midgard heavy pants	+1 Heavy	Alert guards, 15
internal security ID, Midgard MG2, Midgard heavy vest, Midgard heavy pants	+2 Heavy	chirps/guard deactivates it
downtown security ID, Midgard MG2, Midgard heavy vest, Midgard heavy pants	+2 Heavy	chirps/guard deactivates it
internal security ID, Midgard MG2, Midgard heavy helmet, Midgard heavy vest, Midgard heavy pants	+3 Heavy	chirps/guard deactivates it
downtown security ID, Midgard MG2, Midgard heavy helmet, Midgard heavy vest, Midgard heavy pants	+3 Heavy	chirps/guard deactivates it
internal security ID, Midgard MG2, Midgard heavy helmet, Midgard heavy pants	+2 Heavy	chirps/guard deactivates it
internal security ID, Midgard MG2, Midgard heavy helmet, Midgard heavy vest	+2 Heavy	chirps/guard deactivates it
internal security ID, Midgard MG2, heavy containment helmet, heavy containment top, heavy containment pants		Alert guards, 15
internal security ID, Midgard MK8, light armored vest, Midgard heavy pants	+2 MSec	chirps/guard deactivates it
downtown manager ID, opera gloves, snug dress, gold necklace	+2 office	Alert guards, 10
downtown visitor ID, opera gloves, snug dress, gold necklace	+2 office	Alert guards, 10
downtown visitor ID, opera gloves, office suit coat, office dress pants, actual antique watch	+3 office	Alert guards, 10

Last edited on 14 Nov 2022 14:38 by bigalphillips Show more

bigalphillips 21 Oct 2023 00:50

TZRs in your gadget slot seem to count as a weapon for purposes of alerting guards. Also counterculture cyberware seems to always be 15 alert.

Cryptodynamic 27 Nov 2023 23:38

Looks like the guards deactivating the alarm still applies even if you slip through rather than scanning your badge:

You slip in behind someone else without them noticing.

The door chirps as you pass through it, but a guard deactivates it and waves you through.

It does still require an ID to be equipped, though. I did this with a commemorative mop, janitorial ID, janitorial shirt and janitorial pants, but trying again without the ID equipped had the alarm stick around.