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Crushed perception info

starwed 30 May 2009 21:24

I did not get Crushed Perception after intimidating him. In addition to the state information below, I'd made a point of defeating the Chanting Door encounter. (Thought maybe they fueled Saber's power.)

Stats:
Perception: 13 (15) — Reflexes: 13 — Strength: 13 — Will: 15 (18)
Equipment:
lieutenant's shades, the bone scepter, tome of binding, prototype vest, smelly old pants, personal focus
Effects:
Ocean Eyes

I had 10 Etheric Power, 8 Etheric Defense.

Text
You feel a strange sensation, like someone opening your brain up to take a look at the contents. "Really? You think I'm afraid of you?"

"The Third Eye has made a better offer." He levels his gun at you as his tattoo blazes with golden light.

He shouts gibberish at you and you wonder for a moment if he's gone insane. The air around you feels warm for a moment and swims with colors, but you feel you avoided the brunt of it.

Last edited on 30 May 2009 21:25 by starwed Show more

(account deleted) 01 Jun 2009 19:38

I didn't open the chanting door and got a slightly different text:

You feel a strange sensation, like someone opening your brain up to take a look at the contents. "Really? You think I'm afraid of you?"

"The Third Eye has made a better offer." He levels his gun at you as his tattoo blazes with golden light.

He shouts gibberish at you, which somehow seems like a dire attack. The room begins to shift and change, but you focus your will and fight back his influence.

My stats were:
Perception: 20 (24)
Reflexes: 22 (24)
Strength: 19
Will: 20 (28)

I was wearing:
Hat: lieutenant's shades
Weapon: wired sidearm
Offhand: trauma reference
Shirt: holocaust coat
Pants: smelly old pants
Gadget: super holowatch

and my bonuses were:
10 Ranged Power
2 Etheric Power
2 Evasion Power

Defense
4 Etheric Defense
4 Fire Defense
4 Stealth Defense
1 Melee Defense

Attributes
+8 Will
+4 Perception
+2 Reflexes

Other
1 First Aid

So, I suspect that higher Will(with respect to other stats?) is the key to overcome crushed perception.

TheWyrd 26 Jun 2009 11:58

"He shouts gibberish at you and you wonder for a moment if he's gone insane. The air around you feels warm for a moment and swims with colors, but you feel you avoided the brunt of it. "

No Crushed Perceptions:

Perception: 10 (13)
Reflexes: 12 (15)
Strength: 11 (17)
Will: 11 (14)

Power
2 Etheric Power
6 Melee Power
2 Ranged Power

Defense
6 Etheric Defense
4 Melee Defense
5 Ranged Defense
2 Stealth Defense

Attributes
+3 Perception
+3 Reflexes
+6 Strength
+3 Will

Gear:
Hat: giant paper mache head
Weapon: hooked chain
Offhand: unearthly coin
Shirt: prototype vest
Pants: reinforced pants
Gadget: mysterious puzzle rod

I wonder how helpful my Crystal Armor was. :)
Also chose intimidate.

Vholes 17 Jul 2009 13:04

+4 etheric defense did not prevent crushed perceptions when attempting to rush him

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llamaman 01 Aug 2009 01:41

Avoided crushed wish 9/7(9)/8/9 stats, 8 etheric defense, 4 etheric power.

had on Lieutenant shades, the midgard mk9, a hound crystal, a prototype vest, scrub bottoms, and a myers sampling kit.

only skills are ghoultouched and gunslinger.

also, got the ""He shouts gibberish at you and you wonder for a moment if he's gone insane. The air around you feels warm for a moment and swims with colors, but you feel you avoided the brunt of it. " message

llamaman 01 Oct 2009 01:01

seems like 6/2 might be the minimum, assuming we're right.

I had equipped:
Hat: scarred silver mask
Weapon: red hot pipe
Offhand: tome of binding
Shirt: bloody shirt
Pants: smelly old pants
Gadget: stopped watch
giving
3 Etheric Power
2 Fire Power
8 Melee Power

Defense
5 Etheric Defense
1 Melee Defense

and stats at
Perception: 6 Reflexes: 10 Strength: 9 Will: 6 (9)
and got my perceptions crushed and Dr A going down after I tried to intimidate after having killed Shard.

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Vholes 04 Nov 2009 02:07

Sorry.

This needs rethinking. I misread something. Twice.

But just to provide another data point, +4/+4 unsurprisingly does not work.

I would like to question our assumption that etheric power is necessary at all. It doesn't make all that much sense narratively, and I don't recall any data points confirming its importance.

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Vholes 06 Nov 2009 08:59

Yup, +6 etheric defense, +0 etheric power. Chose to intimidate.

He shouts gibberish at you and you wonder for a moment if he's gone insane. The air around you feels warm for a moment and swims with colors, but you feel you avoided the brunt of it.

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In the beginning, men were mortal.

Morwen 12 Nov 2009 08:37

I have 13(16) Will and just Intimidated. I got:
He shouts gibberish at you, which somehow seems like a dire attack. The room begins to shift and change, but you focus your will and fight back his influence.

so apparently it works (sometimes?) with a much lower Will than previously stated. No Etheric defense at all.

Vholes 01 Apr 2010 04:38

I managed to get 3(22) Will and Intimidated, but mine perceptions were crushed. I also had 5 etheric defense and 0 etheric power.

Hm… assuming there's something more going on, figuring it out would save resetters a bit of healing. I managed to get to 17 Will with no detouring at all (festive knit hat + fearsome visage + unearthly coin), and even the rum addled isn't that bad a cost.

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