Bonuses / Discussion

This is the discussion related to the wiki page Bonuses.

Vholes 18 Apr 2010 23:40

Since you can only have 2 chip effects from neural recordings and 1 music effect active at the same time, perhaps we should split those two categories away from the other effects in the bonus pages?

E.g.

Sonic Power

Effects
+1	Screechy Voice
Music
+1	Inspiring Howls
Neural Recordings
+1	Brain Blastings

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xKiv 02 Nov 2010 13:30

I don't know where this belong, but for posterity:

Percentage bonuses are first added together, then applied, then rounded up.
Example:
With 22 base etheric power, smoldering coal (25%) and dark wind (20%), we have:
coal: 25% of 22 is 5.5, (rounded up would be +6) total with just coal (no wind) would be 22+6=28
wind: 20% of 22 is 4.4, (rounded up would be +5) total with just wind (no coal) would be 22+5=27
coal+wind: 45% of 22 is 9.9, (rounded up is +10) total with both is 22+10=32.

One *could* expect each item/effect to calculate its bonus separately and then add the results (which would lead to 22+5+6=33), but that doesn't happen. You can only get up to +1 from rounding errors from all sources together.

xKiv 09 Jan 2013 22:53

morale appears to apply before "apply part of X to Y"
equipped to:
9 Etheric Power
2 Fire Power
9 Melee Power
1 Ranged Power (2 base from gunslinger, -1 from cute eyepatch)
(with 5 morale, so base EP and MP are 4)
then equipped zalian multiweapon (7 SP, applies third of SP to RP) and got
4 Etheric Power
5 Fire Power
4 Melee Power
5 Ranged Power
12 Stealth Power

That's 12/3=+4 to RP. If morale was after "applies", only 7 stealth would count for the bonus, and RP would be 1+7/3=3 (multiweapon appears to always round down)

xKiv 04 Nov 2014 11:55

Equipping a fundraising ribbon (into an empty offhand) changes the ED I get from lord of nightmares, so +% are now applied before "apply part of X to Y"?
Using owl feather with zalian multiweapon increased ranged power, so I am inclined to say that +% is now before "part of X to Y".

Using creepy clown statue with holorifle+gunman increased RP by only 2 (fearsome visage has straight +2 ED) - it's still true that bonuses of the same type (here "apply sqrt(wil bonuses) to ED" and "apply 100% ED to RP") won't feed off each other.