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Vholes 15 Jun 2010 08:04

Very strange - a different free run away message. Has anyone got this before?

You dash away from the sorcerer, quickly shaking off any pursuit.

I always run away from the sorcerers in the boiler room during a speed run, and I don't remember ever being successful. My reflex stat was 4(9), maybe slighly higher than normal due to extra time in the sewers spading.

I did have a feathered cloak on, maybe for slightly longer than usual since I had it on for the last few encounters in the abandoned building. Maybe it boosted my runaway? But I would expect a feather-related message for that. Maybe all +evasion power boosts your runaway? :P

misc info:

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5(12) 4(9) 2(5) 3(8)
puzzled out, patched pants
red lensed goggles, heavy pistol, unearthly coin, feathered cloak, elegantly torn pants, mysterious puzzle pyramid
9/25 hp

Power
4 Etheric Power
2 Evasion Power
2 Fire Power
6 Ranged Power

Defense
2 Melee Defense

Attributes
+7 Perception
+5 Reflexes
+3 Strength
+5 Will

Encounters
Slightly Increased Chance of Choice Encounters

Other
Moderately Increased Chance of Perception XP

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Kinak 15 Jun 2010 21:13

Very strange - a different free run away message. Has anyone got this before?

Sorry, that was part of the combat update. Sprint just always sounded weird to me, so I changed it since I was in there

Cheers!
Kinak

Vholes 15 Jun 2010 23:48

haha, all right :P

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bigalphillips 31 Jan 2012 08:28

Last edited on 29 Sep 2012 23:06 by bigalphillips Show more

bigalphillips 29 Sep 2012 23:37

So, I've been spending a while collecting data on XP distribution. I can pretty confidently conclude that:

• All other things being equal, you gain stats in a 1:1:1:1 proportion for Perc:Ref:Str:Will.
• If you have Increased chance of xxx XP, it adds to that stat by the modifier amount. For example, with moderately (+2) increased chance of perception XP, it changes the proportion to 3:1:1:1 for P:R:S:W.
• It doesn't matter how much XP you gain in a combat.
• You always have a hidden Moderately (+2) increased chance of xxx XP, where xxx is distributed based on the techniques you used that combat. For example:
  • If you use nothing but Perception techniques, the proportion is 3:1:1:1.
  • If you use 3 Perception techs and 1 Reflexes, the proportion is 2.5:1.5:1:1.
  • If you use 19 Perception techs and 1 reflexes technique, the proportion is 2.9:1.1:1:1.
  • If you use one of each kind of tech, the proportion is 1:1:1:1.
• To put it another way, you always have the following bonuses active:

[(# of Perception techs used) / (total # of techs used*) x 2] chance of Perception XP
[(# of Reflexes techs used) / (total # of techs used*) x 2] chance of Reflexes XP
[(# of Strength techs used) / (total # of techs used*) x 2] chance of Strength XP
[(# of Will techs used) / (total # of techs used*) x 2] chance of Will XP

* Assuming that techniques that don't use stats don't count.

• XP bonus is the same if you use 10 Perception-based techniques or just 1 Perception-based technique in the combat, if that's all you use.

(Graph in previous post updated with new data)

So if you're trying to maximize stat gain for a particular stat, you can get up to:
8:1:1:1 - Perception
1:8:1:1 - Reflexes
1:1:7†:1 - Strength
1:1:1:7 - Will

if you use all available bonuses and use nothing but that kind of technique. Will test what kind of bonus the cell culture (†) gives in a sec here.

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Vholes 15 Sep 2013 00:51

Had a conversation with Kinak and learned something that should probably be written on the wiki somewhere (and perhaps already is):

Except when evasion is involved, opposed techniques act as though the opposing technique were in its as-written form; so for instance Clashing Blow will give the "overwhelm" message whenever it's opposed by Toxic Grip, even if toxic grip is acting as an etheric technique.

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