Had to get 12 pieces before I had a full suit. This is now my personal record and I'm not allowed to complain if it takes less.
If this were a speedrun, why, I'd… I'd… grumble scornfully.
In the beginning, men were mortal.
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Going through some logs, and I don't see a single instance of a guard using punch, dive for cover, or precise shot in over 60 combats. If anyone else finds these, please add them back; otherwise I'm assuming that they were removed at some point.
(Or maybe guards have different sets of techniques in different locations.)
Got this, so they can drop at least 3 parts now:
Poking around, it seems some of this guard's containment suit stood up to the beating you just doled out.
You found: containment helmet
You found: ripped containment top
You found: ripped containment pants
(and if the ripped version is enough to satisfy Hel, that means that we can potentially get a suit in one turn now!)
Thanks to your kit, you're able to salvage some of this guard's containment suit.
You found: polysteel
You found: ripped containment top
You found: ripped containment pants
You gained 15 credits!
You found: needler rifle
You found: 2 clips of shotgun rounds
You found: sealant patches
In the beginning, men were mortal.
Fighting him in the Midgard Laboratory with salvaging tools equipped and no Expert Salvager skill, sometimes I get the "poking around" message and sometimes I get the "thanks to your kit" one. Not sure what the trigger for getting one or the other is, or what the difference signifies as far as drops go. Maybe whether or not you get sealant patches?
Are his defensive stats still the same?
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So, here's something interesting. I've been attacking at the Slags Gate a lot (with my perception buffed as high as I can), and was always getting 1 ripped part, and 2 other heavy parts. All these battles were won in one round, with two techniques used (Rain of Bullets and one other tech). Then, I switched to a different setup where I was winning fights in 2 rounds, with 4 techniques used, and I started getting 2 or 3 ripped parts, and sometimes only getting 2 suit parts at all. So it looks like the killing the guards quickly is the way to getting better suits. I don't know if it's based off of rounds or techs used or what though.
EDIT: a few samples:
(1 round = 2 good, 1 ripped) [30 samples, confirmed]
(2 rounds = 3 ripped x1, {2 ripped, 1 good} x4, 2 ripped x1, {1 ripped, 1 good} x2, 2 good x1) [9 samples]
(11 rounds = 3 ripped) [1 sample]
(23 rounds = 1 good) [1 sample]
(34 rounds = 1 ripped) [1 sample]
I could imagine it working something like:
- For each round in the fight: pick one of {hat, pants, shirt} at random. If that part is good, downgrade it to ripped. If that part is ripped, destroy it. These are probably still subject to another roll to see if they drop, increases with perception bonus. Could be more complicated and only count rounds where I actually did damage, or perhaps as a chance proportional to damage done.
Ah, come to think of it, that explains why for a while I was getting EITHER {2 ripped, 1 good} OR {2 good} from the slags lab guards. If it picks two different slots, you end up with 2 ripped+1 good, but if it happens to pick the same slot twice in a row, you get 2 good because the other part got destroyed. Got the 2 good ones about a third of the time, so that is consistent with that theory at least.
Containment suit drop table needs some work. Results I got don't quite work with the 1 hit equals 1 suit part becoming degraded.
You dart behind the guard and knife him for 22 damage.
The guard fires a shotgun blast into you. Although the pellets spread over the distance they still deal 2 damage.You stab the guard with your melting blade for 17 damage.
The guard fires a short burst into you, dealing 2 damage.
You've won the battle!
Poking around, it seems some of this guard's containment suit stood up to the beating you just doled out.You found: cracked containment helmet
You found: ripped containment top
You found: ripped containment pants
As you can see, I hit the guard only 2 times yet all 3 parts became degraded.
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