Maybe it's just RNG, but I had a hard time getting instances of this technique. I tried resting a lot of times with Ocean Sight and Spider Venom active. I finally got it resting in my place in Southside. My guess is that being in a hideout with a Street Doc was interfering. Wearing a full containment suit and resting in The Slags might also have been a problem, but I didn't try it enough to get a significant sample.
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First time I used this, I got 5 energy of nest keeper. The second time, I only got 1 more energy (against a twisted hound). Next two hounds I fought, I gained 5 energy. Not sure what triggered that.
EDIT: and now I gained 7 energy.
more detailed data:
| Opponent | Dam from spiders | energy gained |
|---|---|---|
| Twisted Hound | 24 | 5 |
| Twisted Hound | 31 | 1 |
| Twisted Hound | 36 | 5 |
| Twisted Hound | 38 | 5 |
| Writhing Mass | 36+36 | 7 |
| Twisted Hound | 25+28 | 7 |
| Writhing Mass | 33+36 | 8 |
| Twisted Hound | 34 | 5 |
| Twisted Hound | 35 | 5 |
| Writhing Mass | 35+36 | 8 |
| Horrific Spider | 32+27(+2*) | 2 |
| Horrific Spider | 30+30 | 8 |
| Writhing Mass | 30+29+36 | 8 |
| Twisted Hound | 32 | 5 |
| Writhing Mass | 31+37 | 8 |
| Twisted Hound | 29 | 5 |
| Twisted Hound | 29 | 5 |
| Twisted Hound | 20 | 3 |
| Twisted Hound | 20 | 3 |
| Twisted Hound | 22 | 3 |
| Twisted Hound | 51 | 5 |
| Writhing Mass | 45+44 | 3 |
| Twisted Hound | 53 | 5 |
| Twisted Hound | 53 | 5 |
| Writhing Mass | 53+51 | 10 |
| Twisted Hound | 55 | 5 |
| Writhing Mass | 62 | 5 |
| Writhing Mass | 63 | 5 |
| Writhing Mass | 55+58 | 10 |
| Third Eye Ganger | 63 | 5 |
| Horrific Spider | 50 | 5 |
| Midgard Security | 59 | 5 |
| Midgard Worker | 56 | 5 |
| 3 Trash Golems | 59+55+54 | 11 |
| Midgard Security | 65 | 5 |
| 3 Trash Golems | 59+53+56 | 11 |
* More spiders summoned from the spider.
I'm betting there's a technique or something to fall out of the nest keeper somehow…
The special infested containment suit version of this tech does not enhance Unleash Spider afterwards.
Writing for the long-neglected GOC Casefiles canon.
Confirmed that full infested suit is needed to enhance this technique.
8 EP, 33 Will:
You go limp as the spiders pour out of your containment suit. Once freed, they swarm over (twisted hound) for 27-45 damage.
You go limp as the spiders pour out of your containment suit. Once freed, they swarm over (writhing mass) for 27-45 damage.
You go limp as the spiders pour out of your containment suit. Once freed, they swarm over (horrific spider) for 21-24 damage.
That's enough for the ALculator to determine the base power is 17.
In the beginning, men were mortal.
Starting to collect some data on spider egg/venom drop rates. This is all on the waterfront while etheric (dock guards, ghouls, serpents, third eye gangers, etc):
| Cases | Samples | ||
|---|---|---|---|
| No drop | Eggs | Spider Venom | |
| 1 opponent, 1 use | 27 | 3 | 3 |
| 1 opponent, 2 uses | 1 | 0 | 1 |
| 2 opponents, 1 use each | 8 | 3 | 0 |
| 3 opponents, 1 use each | 1 | 1 | 1 |
Not a lot of data yet but looks like may be better to use call the swarm multiple times.
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