Data Vault / Discussion

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Erenoth 17 Feb 2013 23:36

Using the second level command and then the basic view gets me two networking things (as I shall continue to call them, can't remember their name).

Erenoth 20 Feb 2013 02:39

I still sometimes get network functions for things that this says should get downloads. Example: Disk Browser, Direct Command, Experimental Function, and Manual Search.
I even only got one function once.

Thrillho 20 Feb 2013 04:53

Five views doesn't result in anything. This is logical, given the description, but I was still thrown for a loop until I stopped to read it again. Blarr.

xKiv 20 Feb 2013 14:32

@Erenoth: try command first, *then* view? (as in, order matters - view only counts if done after commanding te vault to open)

bigalphillips 20 Feb 2013 15:08

@Erenoth: try command first, *then* view? (as in, order matters - view only counts if done after commanding te vault to open)

Ah, I didn't realize this, and haven't been careful at all about the order I do things (aside from fitting in the experimental functions). Some of the results I posted on the wiki may be less random than I initially thought, take them with a grain of salt.

EDIT: I'm not sure this is true. Spading.

Last edited on 21 Feb 2013 21:30 by bigalphillips Show more

Thrillho 21 Feb 2013 01:51

3 Command followed by 3 View results in two networking things… and sometimes, 1 Command followed by 3 View does as well. How mystifying!

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Arkaim 16 Apr 2013 06:12

I can only imagine the mystifying results involves the lack of code finesse. Seeing as how difficult it is to reach this stage of the hack, it'll be a bit tricky to spade.

See here my result that completely and utterly conflicts with the wiki, destroying all its credibility. I tremble before the oncoming calamity and anarchy that'll ensue.

You queue up a batch for Data Vault containing Direct Command and Disk Browser.

You test the vault's commands until it momentarily reveals some data, copying it down before the program snaps shut again.

Huh. That string of characters looks suspiciously like a download key for Novos.

That's 1 Command -> 2 View
The wiki says that should only result in networking functions.

I had 11 Code Finesse. I can only image those are somehow involved.

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Vholes 31 Jul 2013 12:06

I suspect there's no actual difference in batch required to reach the two and it's just chance that determines it. After all, the message that reports what you did is the same ("You test the vault's commands until it momentarily reveals some data, copying it down before the program snaps shut again."). There's just an additional line of text if you notice a weird line of code.

Evidence: I've obtained the functions with:
1 Command & 1-6 View
2 Command & 1-5 View
3 Command & 3 View
4 Command & 3 View

Of those, I got 2 functions with as low as 1 Command + 2 View, so I doubt there's a clear cutoff between getting 1 and 2.

I've obtained the Novos download key with:
1 Command & 2 View
2 Command & 4 View

It's possible higher view gives you a higher chance of getting the key, of course. Unfortunately I didn't collect my data thoroughly enough to tell.

I had 7-9 Code Finesse throughout.

It felt like I was getting fewer Novos keys than I had in the past, and thinking I may have been using a higher Code Finesse build earlier, I upped mine to 12 and gathered more data. Numbers in parentheses are the number of occurrences, not the number of items.

Command / View	1	2	3	4	5	6
1	functions (1)	functions (2)	functions (2)	functions (2)		functions (1)
2	functions (2)		functions (1)	functions (1), Novos key (1)
3		functions (1), Novos key (1)	Novos key (1)	functions (1)
4
5
6	functions (1)

15 Code Finesse:

Command / View	1	2	3	4	5	6
1			Novos key (1)	functions (1), Novos key (1)
2		functions (2), Novos key (1)				Novos key (1)

Not all that much data on specific Command / View combinations, but I can recommend getting as much code finesse as possible. 3/18 Data Vault batches resulted in a key at Code Finesse 12 versus 4/7 at Code Finesse 15.

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Last edited on 01 Aug 2013 04:22 by Vholes Show more

bigalphillips 11 May 2016 03:36

Somewhat circumstantial evidence — I don't think this has been suggested yet — but I *think* that there is a decreased chance of getting download keys based on the number you have obtained today. Needs more testing but so far my first day's haul: I was a getting several keys with 2 View, but later on only got it with 4-5+ View. Trying again tomorrow. (* = got key, otherwise got networking functions)

CCV    
CVV    *
CVV    
CVV    *
CCVV    *
CVV    *
CVV    
CVVVV    
CCVV    
CCVV    
CCVVVV    
CVV    
CVV    
CCVVVVV    *
CVVVVVV    *
CCVVVVVV    *
CVVV    
CCVV    
CVVVV    
CCVVVV    *
CVV    
CVV    
CVVVVVV    *
CVVV    
CVVV    
CVVVV    
CVV    
CCVVVVVV    
CVVVV    
CCVVV    
CCVVV    
CVVVV    
CVVV    
CVVVV    
CVVVVVV    
CCVVV    
CVVVVVV    *
CVVVV    
CCVVD    
CCVV

CV    
CVV    
CVV    *
CVV    
CCVV    *
CVVVVV    *
CVVVV    
CVVVV    
CVVVV    *
CCVVV    
CVVVV    
CCVV    
CVVVVV    *
CVVV    
CCVVVV    *
CCVVVV    
CCVV    
CCCCVVVVV    
CCVVVV    
CVVVVVVVVV    *
CVVV    
CVV    
CCCCCVV    
CCVV    
CVV    
CCVVVVVV    *
CCVV    
CVVVVV    
CCVVVVV

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