Gothic Ruins Net / Discussion

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penguinpyro 23 Jan 2014 00:42

If you wait quite a few days after getting a link to one of these sites, the status will change from "active" to "inactive". It can still be hacked just fine if "inactive", but the link will remove itself after a day.

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Writing for the long-neglected GOC Casefiles canon.

bigalphillips 12 Jun 2016 19:47

I'm starting to suspect that Gothic sites are more randomly generated than initially thought (based on a few templates), but no one has crashed any of them in months means we keep seeing the same ones. Today I crashed several on purpose and now started seeing new undocumented names ("Octal Brick").

Combined with the fact that Kinak says long ago on a postcast that "sometimes random letters are just random letters" in reference to something like "JFNB Cube".

EDIT: Yes, after crashing several more, this is almost certainly true. There seem to be a ~dozen or so active gothic sites, and wiping one replaces it with a new random one. After carefully tracking the sites I've found for months, today I found new sites: Binary Tower, GG Function, Unremarkable Catacombs, IMJC Well, Untouchable Helix, Octal Brick, Serpentine Keep, etc.

Last edited on 12 Jun 2016 20:25 by bigalphillips Show more

bigalphillips 12 Jun 2016 23:57

System response data:

+ show block

1	Start D1- 0/4
2	Start D1- 3/10
3	Start D1- 12/29
4	Start D1- 8/18
5	Start D1- 10/16
6	Start D1- 4/4
7	Start D1- 7/7
8	Start D1- 8/8
9	Start D1- 9/9
10	Start D1- 11/11	Start D2- 0/…
11	Start D1……	Start D2- 7/14
12	Start D1……	Start D2- 8/20
13	Start D1……	Start D2- 4/7
14	Start D1……	Start D2- 4/10
15	Start D1……	Start D2- 8/8
16	Start D1……	Start D2- 7/7
17	Start D1……	Start D2- 6/6
18	Start D1……	Start D2-……
19	Start D1……	Start D2-……
20	Start D1……	Start D2-……
21	Start D1……	Start D2-……	Kick 9/18
22	Start D1……	Start D2-……	Kick 6/13
23+	Start D1……	Start D2-……	Kick 19/19

Hypothesis:

Alert	No response	Watching Eyes	Gothic Guardian	Kick
1	100%	0%	0%	0%
2	80%	20%	0%	0%
3	60%	40%	0%	0%
4	40%	60%	0%	0%
5	20%	80%	0%	0%
6	0%	100%	0%	0%
7	0%	100%	0%	0%
8	0%	100%	0%	0%
9	0%	100%	0%	0%
10	0%	100%	0%	0%
11	0%	80%*	20%	0%
12	0%	60%*	40%	0%
13	0%	40%*	60%	0%
14	0%	20%*	80%	0%
15	0%	0%	100%	0%
16	0%	0%	100%	0%
17	0%	0%	100%	0%
18	0%	0%	100%	0%
19	0%	0%	100%	0%
20	0%	0%	100%	0%
21	0%	0%	66%**	33%
22	0%	0%	33%**	66%
23+	0%	0%	0%	100%

* If [WE] are not activated, chance of activating [GG] instead (**or, chance of [GG] instead of [Kick] respectively)

EDIT:
Which is to say:

Kick at Alert ≥ RND(21-23);
Otherwise, second response at Alert ≥ RND(11-15);
Otherwise, first response at Alert ≥ RND(2-6);

Last edited on 13 Jun 2016 00:18 by bigalphillips Show more

bigalphillips 15 Jun 2016 03:14

Sorry for the many posts here. Finding 38 links to Gothic Sites, I kept going until it seemed I was only getting repeats mostly. I got the following distribution which looks to be about what you would expect if there is a pool of ~16 sites to pick from.

Then, went through and crashed as many as I could all at once, and repeated the above again.

First Pass	Then tried to crash	Then got
3x Sorted Brick (WE,BG/Cs/AV,CR)	fail	2x Sorted Brick
5x Circuit Framework (PL/BG/Cs/AV,CR)	fail	2x Circuit Framework
5x Untouchable Framework (WE,BG/CR)	fail	1x Untouchable Framework
2x IMJC Well (PL/Cs/AV)	CRASH
2x Octal Garden (WE,Cs/AV)	CRASH
4x Data Ruins (WE,BG/CR)	CRASH
5x Empty World (WE,BG/CR)	CRASH
2x Binary Tower (WE,Cs/AV)	fail	4x Binary Tower
2x Empty Pyramid (WE,BG/Cs/AV,CR)	fail	3x Empty Pyramid
3x Untouched Crucible (WE,Cs/AV)	CRASH
1x DO Object (PL/BG/CR)	CRASH
1x Hexadecimal Cathedral (WE,BG/Cs/AV,CR)	fail
1x Hollow Crypt (WE,Cs/AV)	CRASH
1x MDP Runtime (WE,Cs/AV,BG/CR)	fail	2x MDP Runtime
2x NEV Pillar (PL/BG/CR)	fail	1x NEV Pillar
		1x WGL Bluff (PL/CS/AV) fail?
		1x Binary Brick (WE,BG/CR) fail
		1x Data Object (WE,Cs/AV) CRASH
		1x ES Pyramid (WE,Cs/AV) fail
		1x JN Pillar (WE,BG/CR) fail
		2x QO Bluff (PL/BG/CR) fail
		1x Unsorted Heap (WE,CS/AV) CRASH
(0x DSTB Routine)		1x DSTB Routine *

*(seen this one a couple days ago, probably missed it the first time)

So it is looking like any site you crash is pretty quickly replaced by a new random one.

The sites with 5 routines on them seem considerably rarer than the ones with 3 routines (or there is a subpool of site types too).

At one time, there was the following:

1x PL/Cs/AV
2x PL/BG/CR
3x WE,BG/CR
4x WE,Cs/AV
1x PL/BG/Cs/AV,CR
2x WE,Cs/AV,BG/CR
3x WE,BG/Cs/AV,CR

And then later crashed:

1x PL/Cs/AV; 1x PL/BG/CR; 2x WE,Cs/AV; 3x WE,BG/CR

to be replaced by the nearly identical:

1x PL/Cs/AV; 1x PL/BG/CR; 3x WE,Cs/AV; 2x WE,BG/CR

Empty World has been around since the coat first launched, I'm sad I finally killed it three years later. :(

Last edited on 15 Jun 2016 03:51 by bigalphillips Show more