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penguinpyro 17 Jan 2019 05:01
in discussion Hidden / Per page discussions » Hollow Gaze

Similarities between this technique and the Third Eye Seer's Blank Gaze?

Re: Peng's Cyberware Odyssey

penguinpyro 17 Jan 2019 03:54
in discussion Game Discussion / Beta Gameplay » Peng's Cyberware Odyssey

Another set of negative findings with the Muscular Cyberarms, Corroded Dermal Plates, Hooked Cyberlegs, and Analyzing Cybereye

1) Melee techniques tried: cruel slash, headbutt, punch, crushing punch, brutality, swordplay, jab, lash out, improvisation
Stealth techniques tried: kidney punch, sudden bash,
ranged techniques tried: single shot, shotgun blast
Evasion techniques tried: parry, shield block, dive for cover, leaping dodge
Etheric techniques used: Starry gaze, evil eye, light of the eye, foresee
2) With the full set of cyberware, I fought Midgard Heavy Guards (both gatling and unarmed) with various melee techs, dive for cover, shield block and parry. The entire time I wore the midgard heavy outfit (helmet, vest, pants) and sometimes the midgard heavy gauntlets. I tried dive for cover and shield block with and without a shield, and with positive evasion power. Killed a LOT of them.

Just a reminder that I am taking suggestions. See the (updated) original post to see what I'm going to install next!

penguinpyro 17 Jan 2019 03:32
in discussion Hidden / Per page discussions » Sudden Darkness

No apparent difference in any of the choices with a simple blindfold equipped, and Foresee, Light of the Eye, Channel the Deep and Evil Eye in my deck.

penguinpyro 17 Jan 2019 03:30
in discussion Hidden / Per page discussions » Pile Of Secrets

More drop data:

+ show block

You look beseechingly upwards. Something looks back down, bathing the papers in green flames for 20 etheric damage.
The papers lash out at you with their surprisingly sharp edges for 3 stealth damage.

You found: office love letters

After the combat, you patch yourself up, healing 4 hit points.

+ show block

You slip into a fevered trance, then shout in a strange tongue. Tentacles burst from your chest and lash the papers for 12 etheric damage.
The papers lash out at you with their surprisingly sharp edges for 4 stealth damage.

round 2
You look beseechingly upwards. Something looks back down, bathing the papers in green flames for 28 etheric damage.
The papers flow around you, etching you with drowned secrets for 4 etheric damage.

You found: retention memos

You found: petty confessions

You found: 2 Arzac capsules

+ show block

You glimpse their plans.
The papers disperse for a moment.

You open your third eye, bathing the area in golden light.
The papers flow around you, etching you with drowned secrets for 3 etheric damage, but golden light weighs down their attack, preventing all of the damage.

You give the papers the Evil Eye and they burst into flames. The malefic green fire deals them 10 etheric damage.

You slip into a fevered trance, then shout in a strange tongue. Tentacles burst from your chest and lash the papers for 16 etheric damage.

You found: office love letters

+ show block

You survey the field and carefully throw a vial of NitroX. It lands precisely as it should, exploding to engulf the papers in flame and shower them with debris for 24 fire damage.
The papers disperse for a moment.

You calmly toss a vial at the papers, engulfing them in flames that deal 18 fire damage and continue burning.

The mixture clinging to the papers burns out before it can do any serious harm.

You found: retention memos

+ show block

You survey the field and carefully throw a vial of NitroX. It lands precisely as it should, exploding to engulf the papers in flame and shower them with debris for 18 fire damage.
The papers lash out at you with their surprisingly sharp edges for 2 stealth damage.

You fire a rocket at the papers. It punches straight through the papers' defenses, exploding violently for 39 fire damage.

You found: petty confessions

You found: burning documents

+ show block

You fire a rocket at the papers. It punches straight through the papers' defenses, exploding violently for 55 fire damage.
The papers flow around you, etching you with drowned secrets for 4 etheric damage.

You survey the field and carefully throw a vial of NitroX. It lands precisely as it should, exploding to engulf the papers in flame and shower them with debris for 43 fire damage.

You calmly toss a vial at the papers, engulfing them in flames that deal 33 fire damage and continue burning.

The mixture clinging to the papers burns out before it can do any serious harm.

You found: paper mache

I suspect there is a threshold of either hitting it more than twice or dealing overkill damage that causes paper mache to drop instead of the actual papers. Simply killing it in one or two hits doesn't seem to harm the drop rate otherwise.

Magnifico 16 Jan 2019 14:42
in discussion Hidden / Per page discussions » Mutant Cell Culture

There was an old chemistry recipe that was apparently removed for combining this with powerful acid. Since acid is mentioned in the trauma reference result, maybe getting that unlocks the ability to do the acid experiment? Might be worth trying, but might also just be a hint that acid is especially effective vs. opponents with Writhing Flesh.

GoldS 15 Jan 2019 21:40
in discussion Hidden / Per page discussions » Cane

I've repeatedly got it without Expensive Smoke or High Brow. Wielded a cane (golden cane) and repeatedly used Punch / Crushing Punch / Knife followed by Swordplay. I think they key here is using the Melee-following variant of Swordplay with a cane equipped.

Cryptodynamic 15 Jan 2019 20:40
in discussion Hidden / Per page discussions » Cane

I managed to get two copies of this. I was wielding a classy cane and fighting enemies in the Cellar Door.

I had both High Brow and Expensive Smoke active when I learned the technique, but Al had previously tried High Brow without finding anything. My deck was Ghoul Bite, Brutality, Punch, Swordplay and Leaping Dodge, but one of the two instances I learned was after just Punch and Swordplay used in the fight.

At least with a cane equipped, combat message does not seem to change following another melee tech. And the message was with both High Brow and Expensive Smoke still active.

Magnifico 15 Jan 2019 18:17
in discussion Hidden / Per page discussions » Eye For Bugs

I noticed that even at Just Starting rank I wasn't getting better at bughunting for catching certain bugs. I thought maybe it was because I didn't have a cage, but according to Kinak "some of them are easy enough to catch you don't get better at it."

Magnifico 14 Jan 2019 15:21
in discussion Hidden / Per page discussions » Mysterious Puzzle Box

From Podcast 51:

I think a tiny bit hasn't been figured out from a story perspective at least, or there's a tiny mechanical thing that has some story implications at least, that hasn't been figured out.

I don't think we ever found everything there is to find in the mysterious ash. Not sure where else to look but this is in season now so it's a good time to take a [or, for many of us, another] crack at it.

The pages for this item are sort of an embarrassment of riches. There's a page for each form, mysterious puzzle, intuitive puzzle, short sweet mysterious puzzle guide (my go-to), maybe even more. It'd be nice to clean up and consolidate them, but I'm afraid to destroy potentially valuable spading data in the process, especially since my understanding of this item is not exactly fresh.

bigalphillips 14 Jan 2019 06:33
in discussion Hidden / Per page discussions » Bedridden King

On cleaning up encounter pages, it occurs to me to ask: what happens if you give the king a potion of immortality, and then the princess a love potion?

And what is the difference between "Is that a good idea?" and "That's a terrible idea" results, if any?

penguinpyro 14 Jan 2019 02:07
in discussion Hidden / Per page discussions » Pile Of Secrets

Pile of secrets drop data:

+ show block

You dive for cover.
The papers lash out at you with their surprisingly sharp edges for 1 stealth damage.

You open your third eye, bathing the area in golden light.
The papers punch you for 1 melee damage, but golden light weighs down their attack, preventing all of the damage.

You give the papers the Evil Eye and they burst into flames. The malefic green fire deals them 36 etheric damage.

It's hard to get a good shot in, but you manage to land a hit for 2 ranged damage.

You've won the battle!

You found: paper mache
You found: retention memos

+ show block

You open your third eye, bathing the area in golden light.
The papers punch you for 2 melee damage, but golden light weighs down their attack, preventing all of the damage.

You give the papers the Evil Eye and they burst into flames. The malefic green fire deals them 23 etheric damage.
The papers lash out at you with their surprisingly sharp edges for 2 stealth damage.

You've won the battle!

You found: burning documents

+ show block

You open your third eye, bathing the area in golden light.
The papers lash out at you with their surprisingly sharp edges for 1 stealth damage.

You stop to wind your watch, murmuring "too late, too late." With each twist, the papers wither a little more, dealing 57 etheric damage.

You've won the battle!

You found: 2 piles of petty confessions

+ show block

You open your third eye, bathing the area in golden light.
The papers disperse for a moment.

You stop to wind your watch, murmuring "too late, too late." With each twist, the papers wither a little more, dealing 43 etheric damage.

You've won the battle!

You found: paper mache

You found: petty confessions

+ show block

You open your third eye, bathing the area in golden light.
The papers flow around you, etching you with drowned secrets for 1 etheric damage, but golden light weighs down their attack, preventing all of the damage.

You stop to wind your watch, murmuring "too late, too late." With each twist, the papers wither a little more, dealing 38 etheric damage.

You've won the battle!

You found: unsettling plans

+ show block

You call a chunk of the papers into your waiting mouth, leaving a gaping wound that deals 45 etheric damage.
The papers flow around you, etching you with drowned secrets for 1 etheric damage.

You've won the battle!

You found: petty confessions

+ show block

You wait for the perfect moment before striking out at the papers while their guard is down, dealing 23 stealth damage.
The papers lash out at you with their surprisingly sharp edges for 2 stealth damage.

You grin maniacally and slash into the papers for 16 stealth damage.

You gouge deeply into the papers for 29 stealth damage.

Kidney punches are more effective against targets with kidneys, but you give it the old college try. Your punch deals 15 stealth damage.

You've won the battle!

You found: paper mache

You found: retention memos

You found: office flask

You found: Arzac

+ show block

You snap and take the papers off guard, slashing into them for 23 stealth damage.
The papers punch you for 1 melee damage.

You gouge deeply into the papers for 25 stealth damage.

Kidney punches are more effective against targets with kidneys, but you give it the old college try. Your punch deals 10 stealth damage.

You've won the battle!

You found: paper mache

Re: Peng's Cyberware Odyssey

penguinpyro 14 Jan 2019 01:53
in discussion Game Discussion / Beta Gameplay » Peng's Cyberware Odyssey

Okay, today I installed the omnieyes, omnibody heart, omnibody artskin, omnibody legs and omnibody arms.

Findings were entirely negative.

1) Melee techniques tried: punch, lash out, jab, brutality, integrated ram play, throttle, headbutt,
Stealth techniques: kidney punch, branded lash, spade strike, metal sting, serpent strike, lethal resolve, backstab, unexpected grab
Etheric techniques: Channel the deep, evil eye, light of the eye, call to feast, watch winding, prison of ice
other techniques: dive for cover, precise shot, single shot
2) Tried getting beating up by melee techniques (with as little melee defense as possible), and got beaten to death from high HP a lot of times, in hopes of breaking the cyber arms/legs.
3) Tried running around shirtless/pantsless with the artskin and using stealth techs. Nothing happened.

I'll be moving onto new things once my EHB recovers.

penguinpyro 14 Jan 2019 01:46
in discussion Hidden / Per page discussions » Simple Blindfold

Sadly this does not enhance or interact with Call to Feast, Channel the Deep, Channeled Shot, or Evil Eye.

penguinpyro 13 Jan 2019 17:21
in discussion Hidden / Per page discussions » Ghoul Source

Mag, that's a fantastic theory. Is it also possible the full strange gourd may be of use to the Ocean King?

Magnifico 13 Jan 2019 13:53
in discussion Hidden / Per page discussions » Ghoul Source

I'll bet you anything the so-hidden-it's-almost-an-easter-egg option is to offer him the strange gourd (before freeing or killing any of the corpses). The Ghoul King wants souls, right? Sure, your soul may be particularly valuable, but the gourd has at least five souls in it.

This also fits with what we know circumstantially. The easter egg skill/option was announced right around the time the Ship of the Damned quest went live. Skill #37 is right in there with Ghost Ship skills…

EDIT: So convinced this is right that I'm walking away from several years' worth of stats and unlocks and techniques to reset and try it. Keep your fingers crossed for me!

bigalphillips 13 Jan 2019 03:30
in discussion Hidden / Per page discussions » Ghoul King

Theories from chat: something special (ester egg skill?) from killing ghoul king with Matsuo stuff.

bigalphillips 13 Jan 2019 02:09
in discussion Hidden / Per page discussions » Black Rose

I got black petals from the black rose when walking away from Dusty Beggar, which I think is a sub-Cool Coin result I believe. Now that we know that cool coin is actually for 5-9 evil actions, and there sub-5 actions, most of the previous data is probably inaccurate.

bigalphillips 12 Jan 2019 03:44
in discussion Hidden / Per page discussions » Dusty Throne Room

Various posts above test charmed shirt and Charmed Defence against the poisoning her result, but I don't think it's been tested the "I must consider" result.

Magnifico 12 Jan 2019 02:39
in discussion Hidden / Per page discussions » Pile Of Secrets

Theories:

• If you do too much damage, a memo drop is replaced by paper mache. If you do exactly 20 damage (and no more than X damage in any given attack?) maybe it will only drop memos.
• The two different forms of Paper Dance might correspond to Fae Eyes and Ocean Eyes

The papers dance around you, etching you with buried secrets for 10 etheric damage

or

The papers flow around you, etching you with drowned secrets for 9 etheric damage.

bigalphillips 12 Jan 2019 01:38
in discussion Hidden / Per page discussions » Downward Stab

Trying to disprove that rat king is the only enemy that gives this technique:

• Killing Angered/Cornered Rats with melee with knife equipped doesn't do anything
• Nothing for using Knife against them.

(I have 1 instance of Downwards stab known; for most of this testing it was also in my deck.)

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