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Kinak says that there's more than one way to finish Hel's quest, there's another way to get containment procedures or that information. "Not sure if you can get the information with literally no combat, it is Hel's path after all, but you don't have to beat those specific fights. Hopefully it's just that the fights have a way of jumping out in front of people and it pulled focus on first exploration, but I'll let you chew on that for a while and see if we need to sign-post the other path."

Maybe I need to threaten everyone in the Room At The End Of The Tunnel at high alert? Not sure.

by bigalphillipsbigalphillips, 16 Dec 2025 14:25

12 stealth power is insufficient to 100% the pumpkin stealing check.

by SolariteCelestialSolariteCelestial, 16 Dec 2025 07:47

Not sure what condition unlocked Behemoth Stomp. I'm using the same Desert Stride, Spear of the Sands, Behemoth Claw, Silent Steps, Desert Camouflage deck that I've been using for a while. Outfit did change slightly:

Hat: personal headwrap
Weapon: spear of the sands
Offhand: shield of scales
Shirt: behemoth vest
Pants: shark hide pants
Gadget: eye amulet

Effects
Blood Loss (3)
Ocean Sight (24)
Crystal Grit (45)
Limitless Justification (51)
Scouring Sand (157)
Desert Water (312)

by CryptodynamicCryptodynamic, 15 Dec 2025 23:40
CryptodynamicCryptodynamic 15 Dec 2025 23:32
in discussion Hidden / Per page discussions » Tailored Eclipse

Taking this with Undying Will and at 0 HP still resulted in Limitless Justification.

by CryptodynamicCryptodynamic, 15 Dec 2025 23:32
GoldSGoldS 15 Dec 2025 23:06
in discussion Hidden / Per page discussions » Desert Stew

Data: 14, 15, 13

by GoldSGoldS, 15 Dec 2025 23:06
GoldSGoldS 15 Dec 2025 23:02
in discussion Hidden / Per page discussions » Sudden Sandstorm

Nothing special for getting this with a Vine Effect active.

by GoldSGoldS, 15 Dec 2025 23:02
SolariteCelestialSolariteCelestial 14 Dec 2025 10:18
in discussion Hidden / Per page discussions » Subway Soup

I got a “Eugh, maggots!” Message right before “You crunch up packet of crackers in there.”, on the same line. The only effect I had was practiced shot (24). Also only gained 4 energy

Edit(1): got Etheric and consumed it, no message. Editing now.

by SolariteCelestialSolariteCelestial, 14 Dec 2025 10:18
GoldSGoldS 14 Dec 2025 04:15
in discussion Hidden / Per page discussions » Water Skin

Data: 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 1, 2, 2, 2, 2

by GoldSGoldS, 14 Dec 2025 04:15

0/3 Desert Stride:

You follow it through the sand, doing your best to close the distance.

2/3 Desert Stride:

You follow it through the sand, doing your best to close the distance.

3/3 Desert Stride:

You follow it with practiced steps through the sand, closing the distance rapidly.

by bigalphillipsbigalphillips, 14 Dec 2025 00:24
bigalphillipsbigalphillips 14 Dec 2025 00:22
in discussion Hidden / Per page discussions » Sandstorm Figure

With 0/3 desert Stride in deck:

The figure's steps soon outpace yours, speeding through the sand as though carried by the wind itself.

With 1/3 Desert Stride in deck:

You manage to follow the figure's steps, at least until the storm dies down…

Still, you feel like you have a good idea where they were headed.

With 2/3 Desert Stride in deck:

You manage to follow the figure's steps, at least until the storm dies down…

Still, you feel like you have a good idea where they were headed.

With 3/3 Desert Stride in deck:

You manage to follow the figure's steps, at least until the storm dies down…

Still, you feel like you have a good idea where they were headed.

by bigalphillipsbigalphillips, 14 Dec 2025 00:22
SolariteCelestialSolariteCelestial 13 Dec 2025 04:31
in discussion Hidden / Per page discussions » Artyom

I managed to get a fisher serum by simply equipping the kit and killing him. I did it after talking about memories and getting sample ethically once. Killed him in the fishing encounter, equipped deep water pole, sampling kit, lucky cap, shock shield, thick vest and heavy containment pants. Will try again to see if always drops.

Edit(1): got it again, same loadout. Both times I only used ranged techniques

by SolariteCelestialSolariteCelestial, 13 Dec 2025 04:31

Perhaps it is like hacking the Novos test server in the computer lab, you need 2 command and something else for it to work

by SolariteCelestialSolariteCelestial, 13 Dec 2025 03:58

Hmmm, so more Hel issues —
There's some extra condition for hacking Employee Data I think. 3 Command was not enough to add database access for myself, and heriodule reported that 4 command was not enough either. I've done it in the past with as little as 2 Command. I might need to upgrade my hacking setup.

You queue up a batch for Employee Data containing Direct Command, another Direct Command, and Disk Browser. You spread commands across multiple systems, creating a valid new record for yourself. Sadly, there isn't a printer here to give you an ID with it.

You queue up a batch for Employee Data containing Tactile Command, Direct Command, Experimental Function, and another Experimental Function. You spread commands across multiple systems, creating a valid new record for yourself. Sadly, there isn't a printer here to give you an ID with it.

Second Issue - I don't know how to trigger the double containment fight. Wiki says "burning down the vines with a flamethrower today" — but it definitely did not show up after that. I'm hoping I don't have to kill any AVP to trigger this fight. Maybe just need more HQ Alarm, but then I can't get back through the elevator if I lose a fight. Hmmm. Hope I can finish this run by Christmas!

EDIT: I did get it eventually with Adjustable Command (2C), Search (1V), call center command (1C+1C) = 4C+1V. View *might* help there?

Hel run by bigalphillipsbigalphillips, 12 Dec 2025 15:10
GoldSGoldS 11 Dec 2025 23:11
in discussion Hidden / Per page discussions » Desert Noodles

Data: 12, 11, 11, 12, 11, 11, 11, 12, 11, 12

by GoldSGoldS, 11 Dec 2025 23:11

There's not a lot of mall activity, this page is pretty old. If you need a small amount of items, most orders get filled at about 100-200 per item, kind of irrespective of how much effort it takes. A few people just have stashes of hundreds of items they farmed up years ago (hard to put a price on that).

Glad to see a new name adding to the wiki! Thanks for your recent edits!

by bigalphillipsbigalphillips, 11 Dec 2025 22:14

Correct!

by CryptodynamicCryptodynamic, 11 Dec 2025 19:42

Perhaps to determine the prices, we can calculate at 50 cred per energy, 15 for every type of crafting tool required, another 15 for each recipe/all recipes. If it is a quest recipe/rare like something you can only get from shared files, then maybe the recipe cost can be higher. For every specific non combat encounter required (fishing, hacking or choice), you can add another fifty, and for combat, take 50 for every enemy. If you are required to be Etheric to obtain the item or need any other special effect, if it requires body or hunger add 25 cred per point, otherwise count energy per item. For example, a sniper rifle, obtained by the quad vigilante justice encounter would cost 250 credits, 50 for one energy, and 200 credits for the four enemies. Tendril drops would be 80 credits each, since it takes two energy, a chemistry kit and a recipe from Andrea, but it can produce 2. For cut nova, the price would be 200 from energy (get horrible black coffee, make into caffeine powder, get nova, mix), but the cost of the coffee would be 100, since it needs a choice encounter. Add the 100 for nova and the 15 for chemistry, and 30 for the two recipes, then divide by four since it produces in batches. The final cost would be 111.25, and you can round either way. Would this be viable, since this way we could just make a guide? Unearthly items can have a different calculation, factoring in unearthly coins.

by SolariteCelestialSolariteCelestial, 11 Dec 2025 13:07

Ah, I see. So if I wanted to make a player page for zeratul, I would call it “player:zeratul”?

by SolariteCelestialSolariteCelestial, 11 Dec 2025 12:00
bigalphillipsbigalphillips 10 Dec 2025 15:38
in discussion Hidden / Per page discussions » HQ Lobby

Got "Two guards seem intent on blaming you for the alarms overhead, charging you with their batons and attempting to eject you from the lobby." with:

I got this recently too — I think it's for any non-concealed weapon equipped (or maybe also counter culture cyberware). I was getting it with needlers equipped, but not with opera gloves.

by bigalphillipsbigalphillips, 10 Dec 2025 15:38

With Desert Tongue:

  • Toxic Sand gives +2 Etheric Power PLUS another +4 Etheric Power with the spear equipped - check what bonus you get without skill?
  • Scouring Sand gives +2 Melee Power (6 total with the 4 from the spear)
  • Pelting Sand gives +2 Ranged Power PLUS another +4 Ranged Power with the spear equipped - check what bonus you get without skill?
  • Dancing Sand gives +2 Stealth Power PLUS another +4 Stealth Power with the spear equipped - check what bonus you get without skill?
by bigalphillipsbigalphillips, 09 Dec 2025 23:08
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